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Why Shariah? (nauseating)
New York Times ^ | March 16, 2008 | Noah Feldman

Posted on 03/17/2008 1:10:47 PM PDT by reaganaut1

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In some sense, the outrage about according a degree of official status to Shariah in a Western country should come as no surprise. No legal system has ever had worse press. To many, the word “Shariah” conjures horrors of hands cut off, adulterers stoned and women oppressed. By contrast, who today remembers that the much-loved English common law called for execution as punishment for hundreds of crimes, including theft of any object worth five shillings or more? How many know that until the 18th century, the laws of most European countries authorized torture as an official component of the criminal-justice system? As for sexism, the common law long denied married women any property rights or indeed legal personality apart from their husbands. [...]

In fact, for most of its history, Islamic law offered the most liberal and humane legal principles available anywhere in the world. Today, when we invoke the harsh punishments prescribed by Shariah for a handful of offenses, we rarely acknowledge the high standards of proof necessary for their implementation. Before an adultery conviction can typically be obtained, for example, the accused must confess four times or four adult male witnesses of good character must testify that they directly observed the sex act. The extremes of our own legal system — like life sentences for relatively minor drug crimes, in some cases — are routinely ignored. We neglect to mention the recent vintage of our tentative improvements in family law. It sometimes seems as if we need Shariah as Westerners have long needed Islam: as a canvas on which to project our ideas of the horrible, and as a foil to make us look good.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crushimams; crushislam; dhimmi; dhimmitude; islam; islamiclaw; muslimappeasement; nyt; selfhater; sharia; shariah; sharialaw
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Executing people for adultery is ok, as long as you have proof. Problems in the Muslim world should be glossed over to avoid being judgmental, but imperfections in the West should be magnified so that we are properly demoralized. Feldman is a professor at Harvard Law School and is affiliated with the Council on Foreign Relations. They and the NYT should all go do something um ... impossible.
1 posted on 03/17/2008 1:10:48 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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No non-muslim can testify against a muslim.
Non-muslims must pay a confiscatory “jizyah” tax.
Non-muslims must live in subjugation.
No other religions may be practiced openly.
Non-muslims must wear identifying clothing.

on and on.

Yeah, what’s wrong with Shariah?


2 posted on 03/17/2008 1:12:55 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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No legal system has ever had worse press

Yeah, well....lop'n off heads tends to have that effect.

3 posted on 03/17/2008 1:12:56 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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In fact, for most of its history, Islamic law offered the most liberal and humane legal principles available anywhere in the world.

Perhaps during the Dark Ages.

4 posted on 03/17/2008 1:13:14 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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They and the NYT should all go ...
To an Islamic country with out a passport.


5 posted on 03/17/2008 1:13:35 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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If Shariah law is coming to the west, I’m putting all my money in prosthetic device companies.


6 posted on 03/17/2008 1:13:53 PM PDT by AU72
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Bass-ackwards-stone-age-evil-cult and law system.


7 posted on 03/17/2008 1:14:04 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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In fact, for most of its history, Islamic law offered the most liberal and humane legal principles available anywhere in the world.

And, the author is a Jew? Sheesh

8 posted on 03/17/2008 1:15:26 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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An apologia for Sharia?

Spare me.

(Although I’m certain they wouldn’t)


9 posted on 03/17/2008 1:15:44 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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Life sentances for minor crimes, death for "major crimes", sounds like a cult.

Oh ,yeah, it is a cult.

10 posted on 03/17/2008 1:16:09 PM PDT by exnavy ( conservative, not republican)
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The author is Stuck on Stupid!

Islam is still stuck in the stone age!

If it wasn't for oil revenues, most muslims would still be nomadic in search of dung beetles.

11 posted on 03/17/2008 1:16:58 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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“Before an adultery conviction can typically be obtained, for example, the accused must confess four times or four adult male witnesses of good character must testify that they directly observed the sex act”

Do they know how stupid that sounds????
The result of this law means only women are ever found guilty of adultery.
I worked with a Pakistani man that was very prominent in Pakistan: he would laugh at sharia law saying even though adultery is a crime that one can be killed over that only women needed to be scared of the law, because cheating men never got in trouble, unless they did something really stupid to make the adultery too public to overlook.


12 posted on 03/17/2008 1:18:24 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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Say goodbye to Uncle Sam and hello to Uncle oSAMa!


13 posted on 03/17/2008 1:19:00 PM PDT by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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I’m sure Nick Berg was impressed by it.


14 posted on 03/17/2008 1:19:04 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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Noah Feldman

There was a time when I thought everyone had a purpose. Noah's scribblings have convinced me this is not so.

15 posted on 03/17/2008 1:19:14 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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Wow, this article is execrable in just the first two paragraphs!

Some countries had bad laws hundreds of years ago, this guy thinks some of our present laws are bad, so we should allow really bad, fanatical religious laws to supplant our legal systems. Oy. This reasoning could just as easily be used to say: "We are so quick to denounce Hitler for exterminating millions, but we shouldn't because we allowed slavery until 1864." Make sense? Next time, welcome the Nazis.

16 posted on 03/17/2008 1:20:06 PM PDT by Williams
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So, this guy is comparing English Law from 300-800 years ago to Muslim Law today to “prove” how great it will be to live under “Sharia”, and how backwards we are if we don’t welcome it?

Leave it to the NYT to publish such tripe.


17 posted on 03/17/2008 1:20:11 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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More self-loathing Jews, Noah will see the headsman’s block if Sharia ever finds its way here—fool!


18 posted on 03/17/2008 1:21:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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The Nazis had great organizational skills, Mussolini made the trains run on time, Saddam loved his mommy....

Shariah’s not so bad! Come on, they ask the accused 4 whole times before they execute her! /s

19 posted on 03/17/2008 1:22:11 PM PDT by Redgirl (Obama - all hat, no cattle)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Forget the sexist angle, how about the insanity of executing people for adultery in the first place?


20 posted on 03/17/2008 1:22:15 PM PDT by Williams
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