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Regulating home schoolers/ Homeschooling is elitist and illiberal (Liberal/Marxist POV)
latimes.com/ ^ | March 13, 2008 | Walter P. Coombs and Ralph E. Shaffer

Posted on 03/17/2008 5:28:21 PM PDT by wintertime

A California appellate court has struck terror in the ranks of home schooling advocates by ruling that their children can't be taught at home without at least some oversight. Public education foes see this as an all-out attack on the concept of home schooling. That is not the case. And members of The Times editorial board didn't get it right either.

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It's evident that the vast majority who teach their offspring in front of the television do so because they don't want their children to be subjected to such dangerous doctrines as evolution, abortion, global warming, equal rights and other ideas abhorrent to the evangelical mantra....

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There has always been something decidedly elitist and anti-democratic in home schooling.It smacks of a belief that privileged children should not have to associate with the other kids in the neighborhood and that by staying home, they would not be subjected to the leavening effect of democracy.

Moreover, it is apparent from the cries of the far right that there has been a specific policy in home schooling -- to teach only the ideas acceptable to ideologues who fear the contaminating influence of what is commonly known as a liberal education.

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KEYWORDS: homeschool; homeschooling; leftistgarbage; leftspew
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Gee! Our homeschooled kids never had a TV, so it would have been impossible to educate them in front of it!
1 posted on 03/17/2008 5:28:22 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: metmom
Would you want your children going to a government school with educators with these opinions? Whoa!

**Another Reason to Homeschool!***

2 posted on 03/17/2008 5:30:15 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
It smacks of a belief that privileged children should not have to associate with the other kids

what does this person mean by privileged? my children associate with people in "real life" situations... not in artificial set ups...

3 posted on 03/17/2008 5:31:26 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: wintertime

All homeschool advocates should thank the LA Times for providing more insight into the minds of socialists.


4 posted on 03/17/2008 5:32:45 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: wintertime
they would not be subjected to the leavening effect of democracy

if by this comment this person means that i don't want my child to be "dumbed down," then yes--she is correct...

5 posted on 03/17/2008 5:33:00 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: wintertime
Well, here's a little info for this writer...

I teach in a public high school, AND my wife homeschools our son.

And NO. I don't think its in my son's longterm best interest to be around some of the kids in my school.

I'm trying to make a difference... but I'm not gambling my son's future on my being able to do it.

6 posted on 03/17/2008 5:35:35 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: wintertime

These two bigots are as ignorant as they are arrogant.

Homeschooling is a better option than public education. The explosion and success of this subculture is testimony enough to that fact.


7 posted on 03/17/2008 5:36:09 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: wintertime

“Moreover, it is apparent from the cries of the far right that there has been a specific policy in home schooling — to teach only the ideas acceptable to ideologues who fear the contaminating influence of what is commonly known as a liberal education.”

Unfortunately these people do not define “liberal education” as a balanced education, they have state sponsored indoctrination in mind. It is hard to understand how Californians will put up with all of this state control over their lives, but it is happening. Unless ordinary people get involved the liberal minority will continue to gain power.


8 posted on 03/17/2008 5:36:45 PM PDT by paguch
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To: wintertime

There is no one more elitist than those social engineers who believe they should have the legal power to over-rule parents’ judgments, and to force all children into a government-run curriculum.


9 posted on 03/17/2008 5:38:32 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: wintertime

Most of the people I know who home school their kids don’t object to their kids having to associate with the other kids at school, it is the brain-dead, pro-homo, anti-religion, liberal teachers they would have propagandizing them in their classrooms that the parents object to.


10 posted on 03/17/2008 5:39:22 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Redefeat Communism by defeating Hitlary in 2008)
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To: wintertime

.. smacks of a belief that privileged children should not have to associate with the other kids in the neighborhood and that by staying home, they would not be subjected to the leavening effect of democracy.

leavening effect of democracy? huh.

more like being bait for sexual predators masquerading as teachers in all too many instances or teachers who pursue their own agendas with their classroom captives..

is that part of the leavening that the lefties proclaim is so vital for democracy to succeed?


11 posted on 03/17/2008 5:44:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: latina4dubya

In addition to escaping classes that move at the slowest pace of the slowest student, and escaping the remorsless indoctrination of godless Marxists...

Homeschoolers need not send there kids each day into an enviroment of crassness and uncivility — accompanied by the very real potential for them being a victim of physical assault.


12 posted on 03/17/2008 5:45:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: wintertime
memo to the world: thinking for yourself is not allowed.
13 posted on 03/17/2008 5:47:23 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian.)
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To: wintertime

The theme of the article is that it is UNFAIR TO GIVE CHILDREN SUPERIOR EDUCATION!

The article ADMITS home schooling is better than government schooling.


14 posted on 03/17/2008 5:48:45 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: wintertime

I wrote better stuff than this in the fifth grade. The LA Times should be so proud to publish this mindless, nonsense commie crap.


15 posted on 03/17/2008 5:49:08 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: BenLurkin

Oops — “there” should be “their”.

You can tell I was not homeschooled...


16 posted on 03/17/2008 5:50:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: wintertime
The failing of modern liberalism is that it has become authoritarian and contemptuous of individual rights, except perhaps in the areas of sexuality and artistic expression. The original liberalism of Jefferson, Locke, and Bastiat recognized that the role of government had to be limited to the protection of life and property from force and fraud. The numerous small battalions of human society, such as families, businesses, religious institutions, etc., are to be left to self-governance without interference. Modern liberalism, from Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, is all about command and control, centralization of power, and the subjection of individuals to the all-powerful state. Many people who call themselves Republicans echo these beliefs, e.g., Rudolph Giuliani, who said that freedom is about authority.

May God bless those parents who remove their children from bad public schools.

17 posted on 03/17/2008 5:55:01 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: wintertime
Moreover, it is apparent from the cries of the far right that there has been a specific policy in home schooling -- to teach only the ideas acceptable to ideologues who fear the contaminating influence of what is commonly known as a liberal education.

There you have it in a nut shell. Liberals want control of your kids minds to teach anti-Biblical ideas whether you are Christian or Jewish household, and make sure they do not learn ideologues that oppose the Democrat party socialist mindset. Let's face it public school is not teaching patriotism, true history, or a morality that this country was founded on.

The last I looked those kids were mine to be taught as I saw fit not the state....this is supposedly a free country not a communist country where the state owns the child.

Keep showing your hand and your true goals democrats let the world know your communist mindset.

18 posted on 03/17/2008 5:59:34 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: wintertime

LOL! These two authors perfectly exemplify why many familes in CA chose to homeschool when I was homeschooling mine. There was something just so trite about witnessing the heralders of CA Pub Ed applaud themselves while displaying such obvious ignorance. Sure, these two authors can actually write a sentence, but can they think critically? Analytically? Fairly?

Nah. That type of thinking is not what CA pub ed produces, and here are two grads to show us all what the lack of fully functional lobes looks, writes, and sounds like on a subject which the authors find morally repugnant.

Tsk, tsk. Poorly thought out article. The authors have shot themselves in the foot with their own pens.

I’d give the article a C but only if they rewrote it, including more thinking, less emotionalism.

And last but not least... D-Gray Davis effectively closed DOWN THE HOMESCHOOL PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHICH __WERE__ UNDER THE PERVIEW OF ANY GIVEN DISTRICT.

He demanded that the homeschooled students use the same crummy curriculum as those in pub ed, with the parents as unpaid “teachers”. District still got dollars. The curriculum in CA has been, and continues to be the problem, and will remain the problem as long as Unions and Special Interests groups run roughshod over genuine respect, diversity, and civility, crying “me, mine, me first, my thoughts only” — My body, my Politics!

But let parents decide which curriculum would best suit their own children? Flesh of their Flesh? The “annointed” say “non!”


19 posted on 03/17/2008 6:26:41 PM PDT by Alia
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To: wintertime

“Moreover, it is apparent from the cries of the far right that there has been a specific policy in home schooling — to teach only the ideas acceptable to ideologues who fear the contaminating influence of what is commonly known as a liberal education.”

Uh...yep, that’s it in a nutshell. And, just what makes the libs think their’s is a ‘better’ approach? Our children were educated within the terms of our beliefs. That’s a problem how? They read better than their peers, their math skills are superior to their peers, and they can think through problems and issues with a critical eye and a foundation in logic. They are better prepared to make their way in the world than most others. They are all doing very well on their own.

I don’t think this article passes the smell test.


20 posted on 03/17/2008 6:31:13 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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