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What happens in a town when the privileged move in (MA Libs Move To New Hampshire)
http://granitegrok.com/ ^ | March 18, 2008 | Skip

Posted on 03/22/2008 11:35:06 AM PDT by lowbridge

What happens in a town when the privileged move in

Town Meeting and elections have been held here in NH over the last couple of weeks (with more voting in some towns still to come).  I've been helping one group of people, the Moultonboro Citizens Alliance, with their site as they advocate for implementing SB2 style of voting and for keeping taxes lower.

Well, while they did not achieve their goal of getting SB2 implemented, they came REAL CLOSE!  And they did defeat a contentious issue of a new edifice in town.

During that time, lots of Letters to the Editors were written, pro and con.  The two that caught my eye seems to be all too typical lately - Wealthy couple moves into small hamlet, considers taxes dirt cheap, get buyer's remorse over the "smallness" of the town, and decide to ramp up town spending (and therefore taxes).

Because the mentality expressed by this couple (yup!  a twofer!)  of "we know better than you do even though we just moved in and have more money than you" irks me so much, being of sound mind and body, I just couldn't leave them alone. 

These are taken, by permission, from their site:

Well, I guess a number of people liked my treatment of Mr. St Amand's manifesto - I was asked for a repeat performance!  Thus, so as not to be accused of sexism, let's do for her what we did for him.  Let's translate what Madam St. Amand has to say in support of the new edifice being contemplated, shall we?

Letter to the Board of Selectmen                                                       February 14, 2008
Heh! Good start – we know who we are talking to and the date.
Dear Selectmen,
I feel as if you all know my thoughts on the Recreation Strategic Plan based on my previous letter I read. Furthermore, I am in awe that over three hundred signatures did not open your eyes to see how important this vision is to the community and come forth with support.
And it goes down hill from here. Let's see – 4,300 residents, 300 signatories – for the sake of 6.97% of the townfolk, let's build us a building! Funny, I always thought it was a majority that usually carried the day – did the Missus forget the other 93% that didn't sign it?

You know, if someone called me stupid ("...did not open your eyes to see how important..."), I'd not be all that impressed with whatever is being pitched to me.  Influencing people? Absolutely....just not the way she thinks.... 
Still, I understand that we are at a critical point where your support is needed for this immensely important project so I write to you today in hopes of further explaining my thoughts as a strong community member.
Translation: you're still stupid, but since you control the approval process, I'll twist myself in the wind to butter you up.  After all I'm what you call "a strong community member".  Hot diggity-do!  On my say so, you gotta believe me!
When I moved here a year and a half ago, despite my skepticism to move to a small community, I was repeatedly told that this was a small but cozy community.
Small. Cozy. Nice words – admirable words. They connote a certain life style, a certain atmosphere, that is shared and accepted by all. And no one was lying to you either. Moultonborough is just that kind of town.
I immediately noticed that in addition to the limited amenities I would have to get accustomed to, there was no community center in which people could connect on many levels.
Oh, the privations - “limited amenities”.

Methinks the downward slope is pitching down a few more degrees.  Note:  did she not realize that ("small", "cozy") before the ink on the P&S was dry?  Of is this a case of mistaken homework (or homework not done)?  Small means, well, small.  To have all those things means....larger!

Look, I lived in MA for many years – there was hardly ever a community center “ in which people could connect "on many levels”. The fine town I live in now doesn't have one – people go and SEE each other. They do not depend on the benefice of government to provide such. 

Another thought - is anyone else seeing this?  Is this the first time that I see somebody playing "good cop, bad copy" all by herself in each paragraph?  And if she is, what role does that mean that the good citizens are playing?  After all, the good cop-bad cop needs someone else to be present for this to work....

Everything I, or anyone else I knew, wanted to do was predominately outside of this community. A theater, variety of restaurants, a proper supermarket, a pharmacy, clothes/accessory shopping, and a full service health club would all have to be sought after in other people's communities.
Life's tough....get over it...and yourself.  You've deliberately moved into a small hamlet.  Right now, I'm smelling buyer's remorse. Oh, the indignity of it all - no place for decent shopping! 

Actually, the impression I'm getting is that it sounds like “you rubes don't know what you are missing for the necessities of life”. Did you ever think that once all these were added, the terms “cozy” and “small” would no longer apply?

Or is that the point?
So many townspeople wondered why there was not one central place that we could meet, share a party, dance, exercise, listen to a lecture, send our children to knowing they were off the streets free of crime.
So many? How many people get all excited in rural NH “go to a lecture” - really? Parties generally are a normal part of the general life - the building they are often held in is generally called a "home".  And if shoveling all this snow this winter isn't exercise enough, come on over - I still have plenty!

I think the kookiest one is “ send our children to knowing they were off the streets free of crime”. If you are living in a rural area, and they are children, they will have to walk or ride their bikes...on those self-same crime ridden streets in rural New Hampshire. Really - how "crime" ridden is Moultonborough???

If you really look at those items – it all adds up to a lifestyle of leisure wants. Not needs; wants.
By definition, a community in Merriam Webster's Dictionary is an interacting population of various kinds of individuals (as species) in a common location.
"Species".  That's part of a community?  Of people?  Now, I know that taxonomically, we humans are a species.  But to put that in a Letter connotes something.....but I can't put my finger on it.  I guess I'm just a hick.....

Well, here's the actual definition

Function:                  noun
Inflected Form(s):      plural com·mu·ni·ties
Usage:                     often attributive
Etymology:               Middle English comunete, from Anglo-French communité, from Latin
                                communitat-, communitas, from communis
    Date:                         14th century
1:a unified body of individuals: as a:state, commonwealth b:the people with common interests living in a particular area; broadly :the area itself <the problems of a large community> c:an interacting population of various kinds of individuals (as species) in a common location d:a group of people with a common characteristic or interest living together within a larger society <a community of retired persons> e:a group linked by a common policy f:a body of persons or nations having a common history or common social, economic, and political interests <the international community> g:a body of persons of common and especially professional interests scattered through a larger society <the academic community>
You might think that I'm nitpicking, but c'mon, we a merely "a species"?  If so, what is the use of a community center?  I think of the above definitions, I would have picked a different one.....
We continue to call ourselves a community, however, we leave for most of our needs outside of the library, town hall, post office, and a school event.
So, a community is now defined by this newly arrived person by what is or what is not in town for “things” it possess rather than for the people that are in it? She concentrates not on the bonds that have already existed for years between its residents but for the buildings in town (or lack thereof)?
We run into our friends far more in Shaw's Supermarket than in Heath's which takes us out of our community.
Again, this is so typical - a community is defined by what it does not vs what it does have.  Instead of cherishing what is present, it is downgraded for what it does not have.

And tell us, is this travel to Shaw's forced on you?  Tell us, do you not have the freedom to shop at Heath's?  So isn't it a bit of hypocrisy that you complain about the size of the town but deliberately shop out of town so as to not organically grow your own community?  You raise your nose at the community that you are trying to call home?

Or do you pine for a home that only exists elsewhere?
There is very little "in common" about our interactions in this community as is stated a community should be.
The question, the hard question, is who are you to tell the present community that they are not a proper community? After a year and a half, I surmise that you might just be starting to know your fellow townfolk – NH people aren't particularly enamored of “air kisses” and faux airs – it takes time, sometimes a long time, to develop the kinds of linkages you are seeking (but by the wrong method).

Have you ever thought that by putting down the citizens and the Town of Moultonborough, as you have complained about so far, that you may well be self-selecting out of those friendships and that sense of community? After all, who wants to deal with a newly arrived carpetbagger that immediately begins the screeds of “you're not good enough” and that the town must change according to their norms?
However, a community center and the prospect of all our recreation needs being significantly improved holds promise for our community to connect, find common ground, show empathy to a variety of age populations because we actually interact with each other if only to say hello in passing on our way in or out of our community/senior center.
Oh yeah, only saying “Hi there!” is going to deepen community bonds. Isn't that just a tad bit – superficial?

All of our recreation needs” - oh Hallelujah, salvation is at hand! We won't ever have to wish for another thing again! If she really wants this to be true, this project will have to graduate from edifice to grandiose in a heartbeat (or a few millions of dollars, take your pick).

Look, get real.  A building is not going to do any of these things.  The staff that will have to be paid to run the place and programs will not do or provide all these things either (any more than the staff at an exclusive country club is going to enhance your self-esteem other than that they do your bidding).

If you want all these psychological or spiritual benefits, there is one and only one answer to your sense of "needs "– that is you yourself. It seems that you have a tremendous lack of being involved. Trust me, get involved in the people - buildings generally don't seem to care. You don't need a “community center” to achieve these goals – you only need YOU.
As a Family and Community Nurse Practitioner trained at the master's level, I have expertise in evaluating the needs of communities of all ages and diverse backgrounds. I practiced with personal integrity and sought ethical truths in constantly changing environments.
I cannot help but think "let's brag about ME!  I know better than you about what you need - let me prove it to me!".  And you should believe me too!

Please, what the heck is"ethical truths"?  Here we go with the psychobabble / New Age histronics.  And with this humanist phrase, who is the grand poobah that decides what is "truth" and what is "ethical"?  And what does that have to do with tax money (the main topic)?  And what will "ethical truths" mean if your idea of "ethical truth" id directly in opposition of someone else's common sense?   What if it is voted down?  In your eyes, will the voters become "unethical" or will they have merely "lied" to themselves to fit your narrative?

Is it ethical for you to force your vision on others?  Remember 93% of the folks in Town DIDN'T sign your petition.
As a RSPT committee member, I bring forward my professional background to evaluate the plan, financial responsibility, and health and mental well being benefits. I have been a part of the process in cheering the ideas while remaining grounded and offering other thought provoking alternatives as well based on my experience. While I serve as an interested community member, I also offer my professional expertise to this committee and the town at large. Having said that, it is most important to me that you as a governing body understand how responsible this plan is on so many levels and likewise, how irresponsible it is to put the brakes on a long overdue plan to improve our community.
Sigh...I just do not know what to say here (my head hurts).  She certainly likes her "professional expertise".
I hope that it has been obvious to see that I take an unbiased approach.
Nope, it's not obvious, and no, you're not unbiased. What is clear so far is that you are ticked that Moultonborough does not have all the amenities (goodness gracious, not even a “proper supermarket”!) that it should based solely on your definition of what "community" should be.

And it seems that you are bound and determined to get what you want so that the “sticks” won't seem so “sticky”.
There are many aspects of the community center that will not improve my life directly, however, it will improve the community.
'Course it won't – your needs are not to be met within Moultonborough until your expectations are changed to meet the community. You made that quite clear in her opening paragraphs. Yet, some of the folks' needs in town are such that this Community Center is far from being a need - the basics are. By building and operating this, you might make that much harder for them.

Note:  It should not be that the community change itself for you; rather, it is the other way around.

There are aspects of the community such as Meals on Wheels that don't improve my life.
Let's face it – unless Mr. St Amand fritters away the family fortune being a Venture Capitalist, it is doubtful that she would be availing herself of that program – a program that may well be needed for those who can not afford the taxes that would be “growing the sense of community” in your fashion.

Why is it that those who want larger government never seem to connect the dots financially?  Clueless pills?  Or do we thank our educational system for not teaching proper civics, math, and a sense of playing good checkers (it teaches that there are consequences to making bad decisions rather painlessly, readying one for more important decisions).
But I am a community member so I support such services wholeheartedly. When I hear townspeople, including Selectmen, express concern over their own retirement issues in regards to supporting this plan, I am disheartened because they are negating the need to look at the progression of our community as a whole.
No, you are being selfish, plain and simple.  Again, at the rather young age of 40 or so, your husband has already retired. This is a dream far beyond (and already past) many of us.  Most people in town are not as privileged are you; perhaps a bit more of humility and a wee bit less of hubris could be served the next time you go to the diner for some home cookin'?

Note: there is NOTHING wrong with people voting their pocketbooks.  Or voting for the needs of their families before the wants of the community.

The townfolk that you denigrate (as they think of their ability to provide for their loved ones in seeing what may come over the horizon financially during their Golden Years) obviously have a better handle on the actual needs of their community than you.  One reason may well be (more than likely) far closer financially to those in real need than you.   They understand the potential heartache far better. And probably, are a bit more wise as well.

Again, being a “transplant” versus an “escapee” often means that the empathy you allude to above , at least the financial aspect, totally escapes you.
If the Selectmen truly believe in the definition of community, an interacting population of various kinds of individuals (as species) in a common location,
You know, “as species” is getting annoying. Stop it. The residents are people, not “species”.
then I believe you need to take a look inside yourselves and ask why you could possibly lead our community to believe that this plan is anything but responsible
Here we go again with the "stupid" part again - if you do not agree with me!.
and beneficial to the growth and development of our community at large. Moving forward to approve the requested $375K for the Architectural and Engineering phase allows us to move forward in getting the proper information to our community for further consideration.
Note: a lot of people don't have to spend a lot of money to have already figure it is not a good fit for the Town at this time....that's called being frugal....and not stupid.  And just think - they may not WANT the town to get larger.
This community is counting on your support even if they don't understand the impact of forgoing your support and this Recreation Strategic Plan.
Another translation: "In closing, just let me call you all stupid once again.  After all, we're only talking on the order of $90 / resident?"  What's that to a wife of a successful Venture Capitalist (to heck with the thought that this amount, for some, can be the better part of a week's take home pay)?

Respectfully,
Lisa St. Amand
Ugh

 



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An Update: Community center fund defeated

1 posted on 03/22/2008 11:35:11 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Yes. Matter of fact some of my inlaws and neighbors here in Vermont raised money for a community center, and helped with the rebuilding and repairs and with bringing it up to the fire code. But they didn’t expect the taxpayers to fund it. It’s a volunteer operation.

Hey, lady, if you want to meet your neighbors, go the the local market and chat with them, or talk to them when you meet them walking around the village. If you want to meet them more thoroughly, ask them over for dinner. Have a few picnics or barbecues.

Introduce your dog to their dogs.

Good grief.


2 posted on 03/22/2008 11:48:39 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: lowbridge

You probably have my cousin that moved from Newberryport 2 yrs
ago to deal with.

As big a lefty as you`d find,love her but thinks the world revolves
around the swimmer.


3 posted on 03/22/2008 11:51:26 AM PDT by Harold Shea
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To: lowbridge

I lived in a small town in North Georgia that was exactly what it was..small main street, small grocery (called Little Giant), no streetlights outside of town, but it was homey, comfortable and everyone was friendly..I was able to sit on the back patio of my house and literally, not figuratively, put my hand in front of my face on a moonless night and not see it..I could tell where the horizon was by the stars you could see..newcomers came along, decided it should really boom, they got elected to office, opened up the “development” books, and everything they moved there FOR was gone in a matter of 5 years..then THEY get transfers out of town leaving a mess to the rest of us..perhaps you’ve heard of the town..it’s called Alpharetta, Georgia..


4 posted on 03/22/2008 11:51:55 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (GET A GUN....When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away..)
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To: lowbridge
Just ask Aspen Colorado what happened to them when the Limousine Liberals moved in. It ain't pretty for the folks.
5 posted on 03/22/2008 11:58:32 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: lowbridge
I feel as if you all know my thoughts on the Recreation Strategic Plan based on my previous letter I read. Furthermore, I am in awe that over three hundred signatures did not open your eyes to see how important this vision is to the community and come forth with support.

This same thing has happened on my town several times over the years. They just keep trying again and again till people are worn down.

I genuinely believe the only solution is to identify the activists and burn them out encourage them to find a place more to their liking as soon as it starts.

6 posted on 03/22/2008 11:59:32 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: lowbridge

I live in NH and got into an argument with some Libs from Moultonborough when I was in FLA. Most of the proles in that area live on $10 bucks an hour. These people are going from meal to meal and these Massholes what to impose on them, get real!


7 posted on 03/22/2008 12:00:17 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Add St.Augustine, Florida, to the casualty list.


8 posted on 03/22/2008 12:03:19 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: lowbridge

Seems like most of her wants would/could be satisfied through a church in the area. But then she would probably be expected to tithe or whatnot, even perhaps clean up her moral act. No, churches are too inconvenient: let the amenities and activities be run by the nonjudgmental government.


9 posted on 03/22/2008 12:31:56 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: lowbridge

Some “small hamlets” would see a mysterious uptick in arson cases if a bunch of liberal Mass-holes moved in and attempted to get taxes raised.


10 posted on 03/22/2008 12:34:43 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: lowbridge

If the area is a rural as it sounds, it probably has a community center under a different name. It’s probably called a grange.

Watch out for these new comers, they want to change your whole way of life. You’re lucky that they don’t already infect your state gov’t because they are bound and determined to make over your state in the image of the place that they left. They have no appreciation of the rural life style and they don’t understand that rural people live in the country because they have little interest in night life and designer shopping.


11 posted on 03/22/2008 12:43:51 PM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: lowbridge
My husband went to camp near Moultonboro, and more recently our boys have gone there. It's a lovely area. If we had a place up there, I think we'd consider ourselves to have died and gone to heaven (apart from my husband's lack of enthusiasm for shoveling snow). I hate to hear of these changes. We love the old ways and the simpler life, but it's increasingly crowded out by folks who don't know how to live without "the amenities".

We have similar issues here in our Philadelphia suburb. We're in a very historic and traditionally conservative area, but people moving in are more typically liberals with little sense of history. They keep pushing for increased school spending for the latest, greatest, and most imposing buildings, programs, staffing, etc. I haven't seen it pay off in terms of better learning, and I doubt that I will. Taxes sure are heading up, though. Many of these folks don't plan to stay long term. They look upon this as a cheaper way to raise their kids than to send them to private school. They come to a good school district, implement a bunch of new programs, raise taxes, and then move somewhere cheaper in retirement. They don't care that they are driving long-term residents out of the community with their never-ending tax increases.

12 posted on 03/22/2008 12:46:30 PM PDT by Think free or die
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The Dems have driven the state to the breaking point. They want to get rid of the “no-tax pledge” and seriously discuss imposing a state income tax and gradually instituting a state sales tax.
This would destroy the state more than they already have with the massive increase in spending followed by an increase of property taxes across the board. I live in a town that has increased out property taxes three times in three years. We now pay an additional $1,091 for sub-par schools we don't use, roads that are literally crumbling and undermanned police and fire departments.

If they succeed and impose any tax, the state will see an exodus like the one in Massachusetts because if people want to be overtaxed, they might as well live in a place that knows how to do it right and has been doing it for thirty years. Property values will decline because people won't be able to sell homes to transplants because there will be no incentive to move here, I mean, besides the wonderful permafrost. Then they'll be taking in less money via the outrageous property tax, which will have to increase to meet the demand of public money that won't decline with the values.

13 posted on 03/22/2008 12:47:44 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: lowbridge

A little editing or the Cliff Notes might be helpful here.

Conciseness and clarity are good things.


14 posted on 03/22/2008 12:48:41 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: lowbridge
Hmmm...Florida

People came to Florida from the north east, in droves, to settle in “paradise”. After a short time, “paradise” wasn't sophisticated enough.

They took over all the local governments and proudly proclaimed, “this is how we did it back home”. They taxed and developed until “paradise” looked a hell of a lot like what they ran away from.

Now, they're leaving Florida in droves looking for their new “paradise”. Where do they go? How about the Carolinas? Land is inexpensive. The towns are so quaint and they have four seasons. You can guess what happens, next.

And there you have it, “halfbacks”. They didn't move all the way back, just half back.

15 posted on 03/22/2008 1:07:27 PM PDT by ryan71 (Ah got sand in ma toe jam runnin from da po po)
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To: lowbridge

So the elite wants to make laws that benefit the elite and hurt the ordinary person.
No surprise there.


16 posted on 03/22/2008 1:16:06 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: ryan71

Perish the thought (though I have seen Charlotte turn into a town known more for Nascar) to NYCLite Ugh, I live in SC (Columbia- Ditto more yanks here-and not yanks that actually like the culture of the south) and it is becoming hell when they’re around!

I don’t care about black or white we all need to stick together to stand against NE Liberal culture-BTW I know that there are some of you just as disgusted with NE liberalism and liberalism in general as I am, so I am NOT picking on the NORTH, just stating facts: DO NOT RUIN CAROLINA!


17 posted on 03/22/2008 1:19:17 PM PDT by JSDude1 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56306 "MoveON McCain" To find McCain's Sorros)
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To: newnhdad
I live in a town that has increased out property taxes three times in three years. We now pay an additional $1,091 for sub-par schools we don't use, roads that are literally crumbling and undermanned police and fire departments.

Our town has raised our properties taxes by $1000 each of the last 3 years. It's really getting out of hand here. Massholes, stay put...
18 posted on 03/22/2008 1:23:10 PM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: SandRat
She wants a Taxachusetts style COMMUNEity center.

yitbos

19 posted on 03/22/2008 1:37:57 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: xmission

Now you know how we Arizonians feel about KALI-Freak-A-Fornians and Liberal Yankees from New YAWHAERK.


20 posted on 03/22/2008 1:47:57 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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