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Guess who warned Obama back in 1985 about the likely backlash of joining that Church?
Red State ^ | March 23, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 03/23/2008 8:10:54 PM PDT by jdm

His kibitzer warned him 23 years ago about the possible repercussions of joining his church. Senator Obama has often referred to Reverend Wright as his Spiritual mentor and role model. Outside of his mother and wife it's Wright that has been the closest to him. He is his father figure or at least it seems that way.

The Island Packet

Hilton Head Island

January 27, 2007

In his 1993 memoir Dreams from My Father Obama recounts in vivid detail his first meeting with Wright in 1985. The pastor warned the community activist that getting involved with Trinity might turn off other black clergy because of the church's radical reputation.

Reverend Wright expanded the Black liberation theology which his mentor Rev. James Cone introduced in 1968. So clearly Rev. Cone was the key to understanding their belief system. Instead of the usual spin doctor analyses I think perhaps its better to see what the Reverends Cone and Wright have to say in the papers.

Africentric Church: A Visit to Chicago's Trinity UCC Magazine article by Jason Byassee;

The Christian Century, Vol. 124, May 29, 2007.

There is no denying, however, that a strand of radical black political theology influences Trinity. James Cone, the pioneer of black liberation theology, is a much-admired figure at Trinity. Cone told me that when he's asked where his theology is institutionally embodied, he always mentions Trinity. Cone's groundbreaking 1969 book Black Theology and Black Power announced: "The time has come for white America to be silent and listen to black people.... All white men are responsible for white oppression.... Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man 'the devil.'... Any advice from whites to blacks on how to deal with white oppression is automatically under suspicion as a clever device to further enslavement." Contending that the structures of a still-racist society need to be dismantled, Cone is impatient with claims that the race situation in America has improved. In a 2004 essay he wrote, "Black suffering is getting worse, not better.... White supremacy is so clever and evasive that we can hardly name it. It claims not to exist, even though black people are dying daily from its poison" (in Living Stones in the Household of God).

Wright agrees. When I asked him whether white Americans are right to maintain that the racial situation has improved since the days when Africentric Christianity was born, Wright pointed to the racist remarks by radio host Don Imus: "And you say things have improved?"

I know nothing about Black liberation theology or hardly any theology for that matter. I personally still think Obama probably got involved with Wright to advance his political career more than anything else.

ASIA TIMES

Feb 26, 2008

Obama's women reveal his secret

"Cherchez la femme," advised Alexander Dumas in: "When you want to uncover an unspecified secret, look for the woman." In the case of Barack Obama, we have two: his late mother, the went-native anthropologist Ann Dunham, and his rancorous wife Michelle. Obama's women reveal his secret: he hates America.

The probable next president of the United States is a mother's revenge against the America she despised.

Ann Dunham died in 1995, and her character emerges piecemeal from the historical record, to which I will return below. But Michelle Obama is a living witness. Her February 18 comment that she felt proud of her country for the first time caused a minor scandal, and was hastily qualified. But she meant it, and more. The video footage of her remarks shows eyes hooded with rage as she declares:

For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment.

I decided to check it out anyway. It appears pretty clear cut to me what it's about. After all it's in their own words they said it themselves. These guys are no different than the white dudes that join Aryan Nations. It's all identical. No good on either side.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 1985; afrocentrism; barackobama; blackchurch; jamescone; jeremiahwright; nobama; obama; revwright; trinityucc
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I personally still think Obama probably got involved with Wright to advance his political career more than anything else.


1 posted on 03/23/2008 8:10:55 PM PDT by jdm
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I went to a Jesuit university and James Cone's A Black Theology of Liberation was required reading for one of the Theology courses I had to take (it was a course on alternate religions/theologies, so we read books on Taoism, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, etc.).
2 posted on 03/23/2008 8:15:20 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: jdm

Strange and frightening thing is,

to those already batized in the cult of hussein,

it doesn`t make a lick of difference and the cult

continues to grow. Witness the latest convert,

Gov. Bill Richardson.


3 posted on 03/23/2008 8:19:25 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: jdm

bttt


4 posted on 03/23/2008 8:22:31 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: jdm

Nice information! Thanks!


5 posted on 03/23/2008 8:24:48 PM PDT by syriacus (Rev. Wright's no prophet. He's a coward who bad mouths non-blacks from a pulpit in a black church.)
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To: jdm

How much money does the good Reverend Wright make in a year?


6 posted on 03/23/2008 8:25:26 PM PDT by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: jdm
someone's doing his homework.

I just don't think America, as forgiving, progressive, and pioneering as it might be, really sees itself as ready for this.

Did you see where Mr. Cone called African-Americans "negroes!?" I think he would have to report himself to God for saying that today.

7 posted on 03/23/2008 8:25:35 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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So, this post is saying that Wright in 1985 warned Obama not to get involved with Wright and his church?
8 posted on 03/23/2008 8:27:50 PM PDT by afortiori
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To: jdm
BLACK MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE

bookmark this, folks.

Obamamama has been programmed for years to become the leader for BLACK POWER in America - and the Quiet Riots will break out loud and bloody across this land. They intend to make Whitey pay for what their twisted minds perceive is owed them =

I'm sure the blacks like Bill Cosby know what these militants espouse and have been brave to buck them and try to wake the black community up - knowing these hate-filled people are every bit as dangerous for the black community as for the white...

We keep this man out of the WH - and hopefully out of DC - or we will reap the whirlwind.

He can no longer pretend ignorance of what these people's goal is or how much they hate the whites - He is little more than a polished, programmed puppet.

Obamamama's little "Typical White People" slip of the tongue spilled the beans as to what is in his heart.

This man and his associates are dangerous.

Now there's little question as why he worked on boards with - and visited in the home of = [people like Ayers of the Weathermen, etc.

Maybe he got a heads up about this coming out this weekend and maybe that's why he left the states for Easter...

10 posted on 03/23/2008 8:38:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: jdm

Union Seminary was chocked full of communist and socialist teachings back in the ‘60’s. I’m not surprised in the least that a “Black Liberation” movement originated at Union.


11 posted on 03/23/2008 8:39:05 PM PDT by Humidston
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You are right. If you read Obama’s political background, you see a very ambitious man who just crawls over one person after another to get where he wants to go. That is just politics.

I just love your Master of the Obvious...did you design that?


12 posted on 03/23/2008 8:39:19 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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So, this post is saying that Wright in 1985 warned Obama not to get involved with Wright and his church?

More specifically the passages from his mid-90s book Dreams from My Father are saying this.

13 posted on 03/23/2008 8:39:45 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I just love your Master of the Obvious...did you design that?

Nope, lifted it off google. It's seen here on FR often.

14 posted on 03/23/2008 8:40:59 PM PDT by jdm
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To: maine-iac7

Bookmark

BLACK MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE
bookmark this, folks.

Obamamama has been programmed for years to become the leader for BLACK POWER in America - and the Quiet Riots will break out loud and bloody across this land. They intend to make Whitey pay for what their twisted minds perceive is owed them =

I’m sure the blacks like Bill Cosby know what these militants espouse and have been brave to buck them and try to wake the black community up - knowing these hate-filled people are every bit as dangerous for the black community as for the white...

We keep this man out of the WH - and hopefully out of DC - or we will reap the whirlwind.

He can no longer pretend ignorance of what these people’s goal is or how much they hate the whites - He is little more than a polished, programmed puppet.


15 posted on 03/23/2008 8:43:57 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

It’s a character called Raistlin from a series of fantasy books called “Dragonlance.”


16 posted on 03/23/2008 8:44:43 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: jdm

Obamalamadingdong and his stiff arm saluting pastors have managed to exist under the radar until now. Even some of the less delusional libtards are getting a wakeup call watching these black fascists. The Bundfurer who took Wrights place in the pulpit was ranting about lynchings and crucification today but no one with enough brain cells to recognize a french fry is buying this line of BS. I for one would like to know just how pervasive this garbage is in black churches today. Their rhetoric is almost indistinguishable from the Islamofascist Mullahs.


17 posted on 03/23/2008 8:45:43 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: jdm

Okay, folks - time for another freep mail - mail this link
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/batmasterson/2008/mar/23/guess_who_warned_obama_back_in_1985_about_the_likely_backlash_of_joining_that_church

to the media - starting with;

ELRushbo@eibnet.com

hannity@foxnews.com

oreilly@foxnews.com

They only get alerted to news that comes in from several emails, phone calls etc = otherwise, they don’t get to their desks - send to everyone in your address box and ask them to do the same,,,

This is JUST the new news we need to keep this ball rolling... This blows his “I didn’t know” out of the water


18 posted on 03/23/2008 8:49:37 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: jdm

Obama either just joined for political reasons (which wouldn’t explain 20 years of such dedicated participation) or he believes what he is hearin. I can’t think of any other explanation.


19 posted on 03/23/2008 8:50:16 PM PDT by TBP
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To: linn37
How much money does the good Reverend Wright make in a year?

Repoprtedly, he lives in an $800,000 plus mansion and drives a Porsche.

No wonder he wants reparation, poor downtrodden black man,

20 posted on 03/23/2008 8:53:26 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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