[PeterFinn]

And I’ll never forget the muslim conquest and occupation of the Iberian peninsula and I’ll never forget the Siege of Vienna, so there.

[aristotleman]

You shouldn't forget those events at all. I've directly and personally lost more to muslim aggression than you can ever imagine. I'm aware though what my great great grandpa did to the muslim villages in the name of Constantinople and Jesus. No one's hands are clean. That's the point. It's not a “liberal” viewpoint. It's a cultural observation.