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To: aristotleman

I enjoyed your comment and concur. While the church has done away with its past abusive ways, it has also done away with many positive theological aspects, particularly reverence for angels and worship of the Divine Mother. Then there is the unfortunate infiltration of leftist clergy in many of central and south American churches, and some in the U.S. Then the fact that many masses have become folk cumbaya sing-a-longs. So quite amamzing that in relation to Islam, the church is a beacon of light.


23 posted on 03/24/2008 10:43:34 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: Rennes Templar

” . . . it has also done away with many positive theological aspects, particularly reverence for angels and worship of the Divine Mother.”


The Roman Catholic Church has done away with these things? In what official document(s) can we read these things?


51 posted on 03/24/2008 11:19:42 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Rennes Templar; aristotleman; John Leland 1789
"...the church has also done away with many positive theological aspects, particularly reverence for angels and worship of the Divine Mother."

Factually incorrect on both counts.

The Church has always shown, and still shows, reverence for angels. The Feast Day of the Archangels Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael is still celebrated on September 29, and the Feast of the Guardian Angels on October 2.

At every single Mass, every single day, at the conclusion of the Preface, we summon the saints and angels to join us in prayer. More accurately, we pray to link to heaven, by a kind of simulcast transmission, in uniting our voices with heaven in the worship of God: as we say, “heaven and earth are filled with your glory.” A typical conclusion of the Preface is as follows: “And therefore with the Angels and Archangels, with the Thrones and Dominations, and with all the choirs of the heavenly host, we sing a hymn to your glory, saying without end... Holy, holy, holy” (etc. the Sanctus.)

Every Catholic funeral Mass concludes:
"May the angels lead you into paradise;
may the martyrs come to welcome you
and take you to the holy city,
the new and eternal Jerusalem."
(Rite for Christian Burial)

The Catechism of the Catholic Church has a wonderful section on angels.

We had Mass readings today, Easter Monday, as well as yesterday of course (Easter) with many references to aangles, and all of the Easter hymns exultantly rejoice with the angels.

The person who told you that the Church has "done away with reverence for angels" is somebody who apparently knows virtually nothing about Catholicism.

The charge that Catholics "worship the Divine Mother" is incorrect, as has been discussed dozens of times here on Free Frepublic threads. Suffice it to say that Catholics are taught to worship God alone, and here's the teaching from the Catechism in wonderful context, well worth your thoughtful reading.

I thank all who have an honest interest in an accurate account of the doctrine.

93 posted on 03/24/2008 1:47:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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