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Even a broken clock is right twice a day! If the L.A. Times can see it, I imagine the superdelegates can, too. Rush, you magnificent bastard!
1 posted on 03/24/2008 1:47:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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call for more discussion about racial grievance in a country that has already done way too much talking

This is the core of the problem for "race relations".
There are those that would keep the grievances of the black man in the forefront, if only to further their own wealth and power.

2 posted on 03/24/2008 1:49:42 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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He broke one of the cardinal rules of politics:

Do not let your political enemies define you.........


3 posted on 03/24/2008 1:50:06 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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Live by the race card, die by the race card.


4 posted on 03/24/2008 1:50:12 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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Yeah, anyone who reads the news, listens to radio or even watches evening news...would see through that speech. However the bulk of Obama’s support is obviously coming from the O. J. Simpson crowd, (sorry for that stereotype, but it’s true). West Virginia’s crowds were polled and very few if any had heard about reverend White.

Kennedy gave his speech to a group of Christian and Jewieh clergy. He fielded questions. He went into the lion’s den. Obama spoke to a padded crowd.


5 posted on 03/24/2008 1:50:16 PM PDT by nikos1121 (typical white person)
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Yeah, anyone who reads the news, listens to radio or even watches evening news...would see through that speech. However the bulk of Obama’s support is obviously coming from the O. J. Simpson crowd, (sorry for that stereotype, but it’s true). West Virginia’s crowds were polled and very few if any had heard about reverend White.

Kennedy gave his speech to a group of Christian and Jewieh clergy. He fielded questions. He went into the lion’s den. Obama spoke to a padded crowd.

This mirror’s Kristol’s excellent article from today.

Please see: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/opinion/24kristol.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin


7 posted on 03/24/2008 1:51:52 PM PDT by nikos1121 (typical white person)
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Obama and his handlers are doing everything they can to hide their:

Black Liberation Theology

8 posted on 03/24/2008 1:52:45 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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It’s not what you say... it’s HOW you say it!


9 posted on 03/24/2008 1:54:23 PM PDT by johnny7
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Come on Barrack granny goes under the bus your pastor gets your admiration and support for hating America but the real crime is your lack of judgement. Wright was a liar and wrong for preaching this junk to the congregation. You stood idly by and allowed him to preach lies. You lack courage and judgement you should have corrected him and shown him truth had you attempted that you would be in a much better position to talk about transendence instead I am sure you were too busy stamping out MLK’s dream on a young conservative judicial nominee...


11 posted on 03/24/2008 1:55:17 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (Standing by for the inevitable: Conservatives are intent on stamping out MLK's Dream.)
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I about choked this Easter when my sister said she supported Obama. I mean, heck, live in a dark blue state, not like it'll make much difference in the long run, but her son and I just stared at her like she had grown a second head.

Though her reasoning matches quite a few around here - She'd vote against Hilary or McCain - if McCain's running against Hillary, she'll hold her nose. If Obama’s running against him, she'll buy the dogma that Obama’s less worse than McCain.

12 posted on 03/24/2008 1:55:56 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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In some ways, Barack Obama's speech on race last week was as brilliant as it was nuanced. But for all its rhetorical beauty, it was also an enormous step backward and, in the end, a rather self-serving call for more discussion about racial grievance in a country that has already done way too much talking.

I'm not going to read this article having sworn to never read the LA Times again. I mean never, ever, ever.

OTOH, the first paragraph is stunning in it's accuracy. So unlike the Times. The writer will likely be gone before the sun sets on downtown LA.

16 posted on 03/24/2008 1:58:46 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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Frankly, there was nothing brilliant about that speech. Only a liberal presstitute would imagine that it was. Also, only a starry eyed liberal would ever have imagined, after looking even briefly into his political record and his church, that Barack really meant what he said about rising above race, since he has made a political living out of playing the race card ever since he got to Chicago.

But it’s true that he revealed himself in this speech. There was nothing revealed that couldn’t have been seen by anyone who bothered to look. But he did manage to put it right out there where it was simply unavoidable.

Throwing his white grandmother under the bus after she spent many years lovingly raising him and paying for his private education, after his feckless parents abandoned him, was the worst aspect of that speech, however. He deserves to have that contemptuous phrase, “typical white person,” follow him around for the rest of his hopefully short political career.


19 posted on 03/24/2008 1:59:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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First two sentences of the piece say it all.

I have a white male friend, about 60, who used to be moderate right but has gone over to the dark side, who has fallen head over heels for Obama. The speech cemented his feelings. I find that incomprehensible, but it’s so. Lots of mushy-headed liberals said “Right on!” after The Oration, so while we may think the guy laid a big egg, the Messiah’s disciples think it ranks right up there with the Sermon on the Mount.


20 posted on 03/24/2008 2:00:16 PM PDT by sagmanagain (Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.)
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obama the marxist is in the democratic party of permanent division and race and class envy.


21 posted on 03/24/2008 2:02:44 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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What is the difference between Osama's religious mentor and Obama's religious mentor????

Osama's says "Allah Damn America!"


24 posted on 03/24/2008 2:06:02 PM PDT by Common Tator
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25 posted on 03/24/2008 2:06:45 PM PDT by Democrap (http://democrap.com --- We have a plan!)
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Forget the casual moral equivalence he makes between a pastor's provocative public rants and his grandmother's private utterances; what's more important is that grandmothers are inherited while pastors are chosen.

Obama's in trouble if even the LA Times recognizes that he threw his "typical white person" grandma under the bus.

26 posted on 03/24/2008 2:07:05 PM PDT by hsalaw
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CALLER: Rush, in about two weeks, people are going to get tired of y'all bashing Obama. Obama came up with a great speech, most eloquent speech in US history. He clarified and he defended everything that y'all have been talking about --

Carl: A Testament to the Effectiveness of Operation Chaos


Bubba sings...

Grandma Got Run Over by Obama | Shanklin
28 posted on 03/24/2008 2:19:28 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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More “dialogue” on race relations? What they really want is more monologue.


29 posted on 03/24/2008 2:34:03 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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It just kills me that Obama had successfully managed to transcend race in his campaign, and now it comes out that he was a lackey of a white-hating church.

So now we are back in the gutter. So be it. Whitey didn't start it. Obama didn't finish it. McCain just might win it.

30 posted on 03/24/2008 2:35:16 PM PDT by Sender (Feltzqlna dads if mental our Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him)
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The whole idea that a speech could get Osamabama out of this mess is ridiculous. Can you imagine the NYT suddenly supporting David Duke for President on the basis of one speech?


34 posted on 03/24/2008 3:20:06 PM PDT by RussP
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