[Wpin]

God Bless that family

[Mind-numbed Robot]

If something bad happens it is someone’s fault. There is always a greedy lawyer looking for a sympathetic jury. The lawyer gets rich, the parents get a little, our society is poorer.

[george76]

Allen Young, the family’s attorney, said, “This very bear had been in that very campground that very morning and had been determined by the state and federal government to be a nuisance bear.”

The family insists they knew the dangers of bears in the wild. But they believe that the fact the bear was causing trouble and nothing was done to warn the public warrants the lawsuits seeking millions in damages.

“If there wasn’t an attack the night before, we wouldn’t be here arguing it. I mean, we know bears exist,” said Kevan Francis, Sam’s father.

Ives’ mother, Rebecca, said, “Why wasn’t that done? We would have known something was up if there was just some yellow tape, a piece of plastic, and I would still have my son.”

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2955918

[Eska]

Indians downriver from us at Ft Yukon (Don Young) shot a polar bear otherday; with AR-15 to boot, ha. 250 miles south of where they usually are. Nobody ever remembers one this far south. It got it all,,,, dead bear picts, evil guns, and GLOBAL WARMING say it aint so. check it out:

http://newsminer.com/news/2008/mar/28/polar-bear-killed-fort-yukon/

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Last time I hiked in a wilderness area, I took “precautions”.

[irishtenor]

Where was their gun?

[FormerACLUmember]

Sorry for the loss, but this is a pure jackpot justice scam. Stay out of the wilderness if you want to avoid bears.

[FormerACLUmember]

Bears are cute and cuddly, right? Hollywood sez so. (This dude was, in fact, eaten by a bear)

[oldenuff2no]

OK, here we go again. I'm very sorry that a boy was killed. I feel for the family and I understand their tremendous pain.
Now for the other side of the coin. They are blaming others for their own ignorance, unpreparedness, and total lack of preparation. Hang your food in a tree or put it in your vehicle good idea. Go beyond the help of 9-11 without the ability and the mindset to protect yourself and your family pure stupidity. The proof of this truth is that a child died needlessly.
If he could not or would not take care of the safety of his family then he didn't belong there. There are wild black bears that are scarred of people and bolt at the first contact and there are garbage bears that aren't scared of people at all. In fact garbage bears like being around people and our camps because it is an easy source of food.
I'm a packer, horse and mule type of packer and have spent many years in the back country with both types of bears. A wild bear will never give me a problem. A garbage bear that comes into my camp will very quickly end up dead. I have every right to kill any animal that is a direct threat to my livestock. Most of the time the garbage bears avoid my camps. I do not hang my food and I'm miles from my truck. I have dogs and they travel with me. When I'm out with a pack string and the dogs I have a boat load of ears and noses telling me what is around but the final responsibility of safety is mine. The dogs and mules will raise cane when any predator gets close. I eat sleep and go to the bathroom with a high powered handgun in my possession. Over the years I've killed a few bears and a few lions with that revolver. I also keep a 12 gage riot gun with slugs handy and have used it a time or two as well. I always sleep with small bells tied onto my high lines an hanging on fishing line that is stretched around my camp at night. When those bells go off and ring steadily I'm up armed and out of my tent instantly. In over thirty years of packing all summer and fall I've never had any person at any time come to my rescue. If it happens it is mine to deal with every single time. My family has been out with me more times than I can remember. I've had clients out who have never been off the pavement before much less 20 miles from the nearest dirt road. The safety of those I take out there is totally and completely my responsibility. Here is the part you aren't going to like. This man did not prepare to defend his family from a known threat. Any moron has to know that there are bears in the mountains where you can camp! This man did not fulfill his responsibility of the safety of his family. Remember there is no 9-11 where the bears live. There was no one but him to make sure that his children and wife stayed safe. There is life and there is death The distance between the two isn't that far. He didn't get the job done. He should have done two things. He should have been armed and competent enough with the firearm to use it effectively. He should have had a dog with him to sound the alarm. The family dog would have done fine and if he didn't have one of his own he should have borrowed one. Here is the one that is really going to make people angry. If you are not able to take care of you and yours stay in the city and under the protection of 9-11. Stay home and unroll your sleeping bag on your living room floor and watch the animals on the Disney channel. I learned these things from my father who taught me to pack and survive far from civilization. I taught my wife these realities before we were married. I am still teaching my 12 year old son these skills. When you chose to go out into wild places you are on their terms. You become part of their world. Civilized thought patterns and all the crap you have learned on TV doesn't matter. Lions, bear, and poisonous snakes are always potential lethal problems. Disney won't tell you that but common since should. OK, I'll get off my soapbox.

[beaversmom]

Samuel Ives

[gondramB]

>>claiming the Forest Service failed to close the campground after the first attack and DWR failed to warn anyone the bear was still at large.<<

They should make a movie... except with a shark.

[upcountryhorseman]

This is why you need to carry a weapon in National Parks!

[Jo Nuvark]

I’m extremely sorry for these people, however,
because the bear “tore through the pillow”, my
gut tells me the kid had a candybar stashed under
his head. If ALL food was stored in their car (as
the family states), the bear would have been trying
to break into the car.

As a child, we camped in Yellowstone nearly every
summer. At that time, the forestry department had
a three strikes law about “nuisance” bears.

This is a VERY sad but not uncommon story.

[RGSpincich]

now they want to make sure it never happens to anyone else's family

As if anything "never" happens again. This is always the opening line in a money damages lawsuit.