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State senator targets torture
Sac Bee ^ | 4/5/08 | Aurelio Rojas

Posted on 04/05/2008 10:32:10 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

The California Senate is preparing to weigh in on the hot-button topic of torture, with a twist that combines elements of the Hippocratic oath and the military oath.

Under a resolution that state Sen. Mark Ridley-Thomas plans to put to a vote Thursday, California regulators would notify physicians and other health professionals that they could lose their license and be prosecuted by the state if they are involved in the torture of suspected terrorists.

The Los Angeles Democrat chairs the Senate Committee on Business, Professions and Economic Development, which oversees boards that license health professionals in the state.

During a committee hearing in January, Ridley-Thomas said there is evidence that physicians, psychologists and nurses licensed by the state "have participated in torture or its coverup against detainees in U.S. custody."

He cited "confirmed reports from the International Red Cross, New England Journal of Medicine, military records and first-person accounts."

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Dr. Vito Imbascini, state surgeon of the California National Guard, said "a few Californians were among the practitioners in the healing arts involved in torture" at U.S. military facilities at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

"But given the tiny number of renegade offenders, we think a more effective approach (than the resolution) would be to target those offenders," said Imbascini, who represented the 35,000-physician California Medical Association at the hearing.

Neither Senate Republican leader Dick Ackerman nor incoming GOP leader Dave Cogdill was available for comment Friday. But Senate Joint Resolution 19 is likely to provoke spirited debate between Democrats and Republicans in the state Senate, similar to that seen in Congress since 2004 when accounts of abuse, torture, sexual exploitation and homicide at Abu Ghraib came to public attention.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: california; statesenator; targets; torture
Invoking the Hippocratic oath that physicians traditionally take, he said the state can "withdraw its consent to torture by demanding that its health professionals remember their oath to first do no harm."

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dems know about torture. they are collectively a tortured soul and a weepin heart.. and also living up to their own oath, the Hypocritic Oath.

1 posted on 04/05/2008 10:32:11 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Curious how they square the Oath and Abortion?


2 posted on 04/05/2008 10:36:22 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Does it violate these oathes to kill a baby that survives an attempted abortion?


3 posted on 04/05/2008 10:36:29 AM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: NormsRevenge

“with a twist that combines elements of the Hippocratic oath and the military oath.”

Like, I dunno know....for instance, Thou shall not harm a terrorist but thou CAN rip the unborn from limb to limb until it dies? THAT Hippocratic oath?


4 posted on 04/05/2008 10:39:11 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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Looks like we’re all on the same page here, lol.


5 posted on 04/05/2008 10:39:51 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Does this include punishing doctors who deal in organs from Chinese prisoners? We know they won't go after businesses run by spouses of congressmen that sell secrets to China.
6 posted on 04/05/2008 10:40:41 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: NoGrayZone

The baby has given implied consent by affixing itself to a host mother against her will.


7 posted on 04/05/2008 10:41:18 AM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: NormsRevenge
But the oath and abortion are fine?

Assisted suicide?


8 posted on 04/05/2008 10:41:58 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: bill1952

Not all euthenasia is by consent. Some are ruled too mentally challenged or demented to make the decision and someone (not even a blood relative or spouse) can make that decision for them as being “in their best interest”.


9 posted on 04/05/2008 10:43:36 AM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: weegee

“The baby has given implied consent by affixing itself to a host mother against her will.”

Damn, forgot about that “consent” thingie. Question.....if baby is allowed to consent to be ripped to shreds until it dies why did Kevorkian do jail time? At least he’s “nice” about it.


10 posted on 04/05/2008 10:45:59 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: weegee

and someone (not even a blood relative or spouse) can make that decision for them as being “in their best interest”.

And that is okay for a doctor to be involved with?
No problem with the old oath there?


11 posted on 04/05/2008 10:56:21 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: NormsRevenge

morons...nothing better to do? California is such great shape?


12 posted on 04/05/2008 11:10:15 AM PDT by wny
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To: NormsRevenge

Why do Democrats wonder why we consider them to be unpatriotic again?


13 posted on 04/05/2008 11:38:32 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, at least, he isn’t trying to build an NFL Stadium with my money.


14 posted on 04/05/2008 12:06:54 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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