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McCain's path to victory
MSNBC.COM ^ | April 9th, 2008 | Chuck Todd

Posted on 04/09/2008 1:52:48 PM PDT by The_Republican

Conservatives may not be thrilled with what a McCain presidency means, but if social conservatives care about the makeup of the House and Senate, as well state legislatures and the courts, then they should rally around McCain. They know better than most the importance of controlling the legislative and judicial branches to achieve long-term influence.

With McCain representing the Republican brand, even if he were to lose the race he should be able to save a few Senate seats (say 2-3) and a handful of House seats (perhaps 10). The latter could keep the Democrats majority below 250, a reachable number for the GOP in 2010.

If the de facto Democratic nominee is clear within the next 4-6 weeks, that person will see a poll bounce. And according to GOP pollster Steve Lombardo, it could be one heck of a bounce, like post-convention. He anticipates the Democratic candidate will move up 10 points once the primary race is over.

If McCain’s is hanging in, behind by 10 or so points, then it is clear he will have a shot. If the bounce pushes the Democratic nominee to as much as a 15 point lead, it may be very demoralizing to the GOP. The sooner McCain can absorb this inevitable negative poll news, the longer he has to recover.

If Clinton is the foe, McCain will be using a target map that looks very similar to the one George Bush pursued in '00 and '04. The emphasis will be on the Midwest and West, as he may be able to pick off a few blue states like Oregon or Wisconsin.

If Obama is the foe, McCain's geographic emphasis is likely to shift East to the Rust Belt, Michigan and Pennsylvania in particular, and even to the Northeast.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; generalelection; mccain; win
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I disagree with Mac having easiser path against Klinton. However, its an interesting point that NOT having an opponent for a while is actually going to hurt McCain. He would have less time to recover from Dems' eventual nominee bounce.
1 posted on 04/09/2008 1:52:48 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican
McCain will have much more difficult time beating Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama. With the current economic situation, many morons will remember the good economic times of the 1990’s and think that it was Bill Clinton who made it for them so they will vote for Hillary Clinton. She will win Ohio and it is all over, she will become President.
2 posted on 04/09/2008 1:55:23 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Zibo (Limbaugh) is Hillary Clinton Useful Idiot)
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To: The_Republican

McCain will win PA, rendering the whole point moot. Even if he loses Ohio, if he wins PA it’s over for Hitlery or The Magic Negro.


3 posted on 04/09/2008 1:55:31 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: The_Republican

I agree that the MSM will do whatever they can to get this so called bounce but I just don’t think it is there. The American people have seen these two clowns for months now and they aren’t buying. I would imagine McCain never trails by more than five against either one in Rasmussen and if it is Hillary McCain wins by three or four points, Osama he beats by ten.


4 posted on 04/09/2008 1:56:16 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: The_Republican

Advice from MSNBC?? LOL!

McCain had better hope that Clinton is not on the ticket if he wants to win more than 20 states.


5 posted on 04/09/2008 1:56:20 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: The_Republican
McCain will be a one termer, he must pick a strong VP I love George Allen but I think the Mormon will be his choice which I also applaud, as if it matters what I think.
6 posted on 04/09/2008 1:56:54 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: RockinRight

McCain will win Pennsylvania against Obama but he will for sure lose it to Hillary Clinton.


7 posted on 04/09/2008 1:58:32 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Zibo (Limbaugh) is Hillary Clinton Useful Idiot)
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To: jveritas

She’s harder to beat than Obama at this point.

However, I think even she is beatable - if she has to use shenanigans to get the nod, which, mathematically, is the only way she gets the nomination now, a lot of Black Obama supporters will be pissed at her, and enough will be pissed to throw the election to McCain.

Just my $0.02.


8 posted on 04/09/2008 1:58:39 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: boomop1

Pick a VP who was defeated in his Senate re-election like George Allen?


9 posted on 04/09/2008 1:59:35 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Zibo (Limbaugh) is Hillary Clinton Useful Idiot)
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To: The_Republican

Mclame can kiss this “typical white girls” behind. He is still a lib in R clothing.

I’d rather see the knife coming towards me instead of in the back. At least I’d have a fighting chance.


10 posted on 04/09/2008 2:00:26 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: The_Republican

Obama is inching ahead of McCain in the Gallup & Rasmussen tracking polls. The Dems activists and the media are rallying around Obama. They hope to kick Hillary to the curb by the May 6th primaries. I hope Hillary stays in the primary as long as possible to force Obama to burn up his vast campaign wealth. I’d rather Obama use his money to attack McCain than Hillary at this point. McCain enjoy a poll bounce in March while Hillary & Obama duked it out.


11 posted on 04/09/2008 2:00:46 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: RockinRight
You cannot guarantee that black voters will not vote for Hillary Clinton but it is a guarantee that a lot of democrat white racists will not vote for Obama.
12 posted on 04/09/2008 2:00:59 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Zibo (Limbaugh) is Hillary Clinton Useful Idiot)
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To: Patrick1

I think talking about bounces and such this way is pre-internet thinking.

The old rules don’t apply any more in the old ways.

“Bounces” were the product mostly of the effect of headlines. Today many more people get a lot more than headlines and a lot more people talk with other people and interact with the news online.


13 posted on 04/09/2008 2:01:30 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: RockinRight

McCain will win PA,

Nuts.
The only republican who could win Pa is Ronald Reagan, and he is dead.

In fact, that would be the last time that Pa actually voted GOP. - 1988
Count em. 20 years. 2 decades.


14 posted on 04/09/2008 2:02:00 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: boomop1

I also like George Allen. If Obama’s the Rat nom, Allen would have all kinds of comebacks from the Wright vid archive with which to beat back any insinuations that he (Allen) is racist.

I’d also like to see Lynne Cheney as VP. Rice has what it takes, too.


15 posted on 04/09/2008 2:03:25 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: The_Republican
Spit-catcher for Chris Matthews...


16 posted on 04/09/2008 2:03:39 PM PDT by johnny7
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To: NoGrayZone
The Clintons boots will be kicking your butts again but at the same time they will destroy the country and surrender in the war on terror. Do you care about America? Or you hate McCain so much that you want America destroyed just so you can see him defeated.
17 posted on 04/09/2008 2:04:41 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Zibo (Limbaugh) is Hillary Clinton Useful Idiot)
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To: NoGrayZone

>I’d rather see the knife coming towards me instead of in the back...

Hear hear! Bears repaeating!
McCain has tried to stick something in our backside enough times for us not to know what is coming...


18 posted on 04/09/2008 2:04:49 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Kuksool

Correction: I’d rather Obama use his money to attack Hillary than McCain at this point. McCain enjoy a poll bounce in March while Hillary & Obama duked it out.


19 posted on 04/09/2008 2:05:49 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: bill1952
Advice from MSNBC?? LOL! - It's important to liberals that McCain loses but not by much - losing by a large margin would send a clear and concise message to the GOP that they must run a conservative to win, liberals don't want this.
20 posted on 04/09/2008 2:06:33 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (A country can survive its fools, but it cannot survive treason from within.)
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