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The Petraeus-Crocker Show Gets the Hook
New York Times ^ | 13 April 2008 | Frank Rich

Posted on 04/13/2008 8:20:52 AM PDT by shrinkermd

This is a scattered editorial. Rich begins by puffing an Abu Ghraib film supposed to excite the masses. It doesn't sound interesting and, to Rich's credit, he gives up on this score.

He then confesses his confusion and unhappiness and blames the American people for disinterest in his and the NYT's preoccupation with Iraq an alleged atrocities.

"...This is not merely a showbiz phenomenon but a leading indicator of where our entire culture is right now. It’s not just torture we want to avoid. Most Americans don’t want to hear, see or feel anything about Iraq, whether they support the war or oppose it. They want to look away, period, and have been doing so for some time.

"...That’s why last week’s testimony by Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker was a nonevent beyond Washington. The cable networks duly presented the first day of hearings, but only, it seemed, because the show could be hyped as an “American Idol”-like competition in foreign-policy one-upmanship for the three remaining presidential candidates, all senators. When the hearings migrated to the House the next day, they vanished...

Then, just to prove he knows MoDo, he gives his psychoanalysis of the war and its discontents:

"...This war has lasted so long that Americans, even the bad apples of Abu Ghraib interviewed by Mr. Morris, have had the time to pass through all five of the Kübler-Ross stages of grief over its implosion. Though dead-enders like Mr. McCain may have only gone from denial to anger to bargaining, most others have moved on to depression and acceptance. Unable to even look at the fiasco anymore, the nation is now just waiting for someone to administer the last rites.


(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abughraib; aidandcomfort; antiamericanwar; frankrich; hollywoodreds; iraqwar
Maureen Dowd does the psychoanalysis thing better than Rich. He should go back and see if Pinch really wants to keep declaring defeat. It is hard to write a column after column claiming defeat when the defeat does not happen.
1 posted on 04/13/2008 8:33:02 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
It is hard to write a column after column claiming defeat when the defeat does not happen.

My take on this is that Monsieur Rich will keep declaring defeat until US forces do pull out of Iraq...then he can puff up his girly chest and say "See, I was right!"

Broken clock, etc...

2 posted on 04/13/2008 8:46:08 AM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: shrinkermd

He’s like a little kid, when faced with truth contrary to his desires, he puts his fingers in his ears and shouts, “I can’t hear you.”


3 posted on 04/13/2008 8:59:34 AM PDT by Rocky
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To: shrinkermd
WOW!!!!

He acknowledges his own cluelessness by describing screening the movie with wine-snipping, media and cultural snobs, and then proceeds to lament how “WE” don't want to know what's really going on in Iraq.

Well, Mr. Rich, if your definition of being informed includes the NYTimes or MS. Couric, then I am blissfully ignorant of what you consider important information.

However, unlike Vietnam, I have thousands of sources of information of what is going on in Iraq, and elsewhere in the world, and don't need Hollywood to interpret that informaton for me.

4 posted on 04/13/2008 9:06:19 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: shrinkermd

Yes and there he goes again thinking because he writes something it will be true. It must frustrate the left because they have so totally failed to excite the general public on Iraq. Most still do not want to see defeat and there is no real passion to get out of Iraq. If polls had intensity meters they would be flat lined on this issue. The left is screaming and the rest of us are just shrugging. As for anti-Iraq films why don’t they do something unique and come out with a Pro-Iraq film with Americans as the good guys kicking butts and taking names. I think it’d be a hit but then again Hollywood defines creativity by how depraved and traitorous a movie is because they think America is not fit for heros except fictional ones.


5 posted on 04/13/2008 9:12:37 AM PDT by Maelstorm (The Earth has been warmer and it has been colder. Climates changes now lets move on.)
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To: shrinkermd
Frank Rich is still being published? Guy hasn't been right on a single thing in his life. One has to wonder what sort of sexual favors Rich provides Pinch and his cronies to keep his job.
6 posted on 04/13/2008 9:14:05 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: shrinkermd

Unless there’s a lot of gratuitous sex in the movie, I’d say it’s DOA.


7 posted on 04/13/2008 9:20:05 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Webster dictionary

POOFER: see Frank Rich

8 posted on 04/13/2008 9:33:13 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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To: shrinkermd

Abu Ghraib was on the front page of the Nyet Times for 30 days FRONT PAGE.

Of course it was DURING the 2004 election cycle and was the turning point in the war (the media hype). It turned Americans against the war and gave merit to the terrorist movement. Thank you traitors.

The guys were ALREADY UNDER INVESTIGATION and the leak came from the uncle of one of the men who tried to blackmail the government into giving him a lighter sentence.

FOOLS.


9 posted on 04/13/2008 9:34:30 AM PDT by weegee (Religion is the opiate of the masses MARX1843 They get bitter, they cling to...religion OBAMA2008)
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To: UltraKonservativen

POOFER = poofter?


10 posted on 04/13/2008 9:34:48 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: shrinkermd

They’re still in the denial atage.


11 posted on 04/13/2008 9:35:40 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: gitmo

If they wanted to have this movie make money, they would’ve gotten the guys who make the American Pie movies to film it and hire Tom Hanks to reprise the sort of character he played in Bachelor Party and sold it as a sex comedy.


12 posted on 04/13/2008 9:35:51 AM PDT by weegee (Religion is the opiate of the masses MARX1843 They get bitter, they cling to...religion OBAMA2008)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Since the kidnapping of Nick Berg PRECEEDED the release of the Abu Ghraib images, it was not a RESPONSE to the Abu Ghraib incident.

Does the movie at all include a restaging OF the Nick Berg kidnapping and Islamic snuff film?


13 posted on 04/13/2008 9:37:20 AM PDT by weegee (Religion is the opiate of the masses MARX1843 They get bitter, they cling to...religion OBAMA2008)
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To: shrinkermd

I spend 1 or 2 hours just about everyday searching out information about Iraq and the other theaters of the GWOT, but I sure as hell don’t go to the NYT’s or the MSM.

I can’t remember the last time I read something from the NYTs that was factual and accurate,So why would I waste my time.

Oh and Frank I spent 2 days watching the Petraeus-Crocker show (as you call it). I haven’t invested that much time watching anything in a long time, but of course you’re too stupid to understand the world doesn’t revolve around New York bathhouses.


14 posted on 04/13/2008 9:47:13 AM PDT by federal
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To: shrinkermd

Thank you, but I have a policy of trying to ignore anything emanating from bloated gasbags like Frank Rich. With a MoDo column we can at least look forward to photos of CZJ — I shudder to think of what will happen to FR if we were to get photos of some rival in love that Frank Rich lost out to...... UGH.


15 posted on 04/13/2008 9:50:51 AM PDT by Enchante (Obama: You dumb ignorant "typical white people" should learn to say "God D--n America!")
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Yes, and besides the wine Rich forgot that out here in flyover country we do our drinking and eating after the movie, not before.


16 posted on 04/13/2008 10:01:42 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

My dear G-d, they are so, so terrified of victory in Iraq. Sick.


17 posted on 04/13/2008 10:20:31 AM PDT by Wade827 (Job 21:3)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; RedRover; Girlene; smoothsailing; jazusamo; 4woodenboats; brityank; Cannoneer No. 4; ..

Bump and a ping


18 posted on 04/13/2008 10:31:37 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: UltraKonservativen
Those guys just about all are. And Rich was the guy who outed David Brock in the pages of the Gray Lady (almost typed "Gay Lady" by accident) and started him moving into Hillary's orbit. Now Brock works for John Podesta.
19 posted on 04/13/2008 10:32:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: humblegunner

POOFER = poofter?

That’s the ticket! Thanks.


20 posted on 04/13/2008 10:48:26 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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