the HBO documentary is by far the best out there
Posted on 04/19/2008 4:02:19 PM PDT by FReepaholic
NEAR WACO - 15-years-ago Saturday, a huge fire ended a 51-day stand-off near Waco.
It all took place at the Branch Davidian Compound.
The standoff started with a government investigation into illegal possession of firearms and explosives.
The Feds tried to enter the compound and were met with gunfire. By the end of the day, the compound was burned to the ground.
80 people were killed, including 22 children and four ATF agents.
All the lazy reporter has to do is look up the relevant facts on Wikipedia, but no.
Can you elaborate on what is inaccurate about it?
That, too, was about males (or at least one male, Koresh) using religious pretexts in order to acquire sexual access to multiple females.
No it wasn't! It was a ATF raid not a CPS raid. They were modifying guns and reselling them. After the botched raid went bad, Reno stated that they had a meth lab (false) then they found someone who was underage and had sex with Koresh. It appears that Texans like to repeat history every 15 years. Wonder if CPS will adopt the ATF stance of killing the children for the sake of the children?
Or maybe just as accurately that too was about the government overstepping it authority.
This statement is inaccurate:
...The Feds tried to enter the compound and were met with gunfire. By the end of the day, the compound was burned to the ground...
The author is confusing the initial BATF assault on the church with the final FBI assault that resulted in the fire.
Crappy reporting.
I should’ve been clearer: I wasn’t speaking of the reason for the raid itself. I meant that the existence of that cult stemmed from Koresh’s libido and his desire for controlling others, especially women, just as the existence of the FLDS cult stems from the libidinous desires of the males who first began it and who today perpetuate it.
Okay. "The standoff started with a government investigation into illegal possession of firearms and explosives."
In actuality the standoff was a carefully timed creation of the BATF. The BATF decided to make headlines with multiple arrests just as a Congressional committee held hearings to determine the BATF budget.
Koresh regularly drove into Waco. He could have been arrested easily, but that would not make headlines. Over 80 people were killed to pump up the resumes of BATF agents.
the HBO documentary is by far the best out there
"Child abuse" factored into the case against the BDs - a go-to favorite excuse for the nanny state and is always a hit with the public. Still used to this day.
Yep. And don't forget this was in the aftermath of the Ruby Ridge "incident". The feds had a black eye and needed to repair their image. They knew they could count on the media to portray a strange isolated religious cult as some kind of monsters and the government agents as heros.
“Koresh regularly drove into Waco.”
As did Randy Weaver the year before, up in Idaho. Like you say, no headlines in a quiet arrest.
And the two huge metal front doors to the place just happened to mysteriously disappear that proved that all gunfire was ingoing not outgoing!!!
The warrant for the raid covers all sorts of neat stuff like aluminum powder and so on that had to do with the grenade business.
I'd say the Davidians, as a group, were nuts. The ATF, as a group, was too political for its own good ~ and clearly too PC. They gave multiround firing weapons to women who could barely deal with the weight to say nothing of the recoil.
Everything went downhill from that point on although the chief planner of the debacle got promoted.
That's not quite how you are supposed to handle such situations if you care about the kiddies.
Waco was like yesterday to me. I spent quite a bit of my time researching everthing that I could on this incident. There is a lot of history on this on the internet if anyone wants to really find out what ACTUALLY happened.
And 4 of the agents that went into the upstairs all were shot in the exact same location in the back of the head turned out to be (all of them) prior Clinton bodyguards/security guards during his Governorship as I remember.
I had that material in hand before the FBI, et al, got involved in end point activities.
The FBI knew the building was full of highly combustible materials that would burn at very high temperatures and cause lots of damage.
Or, maybe BATF never shared their affidavit with the FBI ~ that point's never been made clear by later investigators, and certainly not by BATF.
“Everything went downhill from that point on although the chief planner of the debacle got promoted. “
Lol, are you referring to Wesley Clark that became the Supreme Commander under Clinton?
Not quite. I think one of the guys wounded had duty with/near Clinton earlier. Lots of LEOs in the DC offices get supplemental assignments with Secret Service all the time. Friend of mine was attached to the Secret Service when they came to town with hundreds of tractors to demonstrate against farm prices. Otherwise, he was just a DC cop.
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