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Shameless example of disregarding law
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Apr. 22, 2008 | Daniel Pehrson

Posted on 04/24/2008 8:51:41 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 04/24/2008 8:52:01 AM PDT by neverdem
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When government is above the law, people think its unjust and lawless. Philadelphia's crime problem is exacerbated by its public officials sending the wrong message to the city's inhabitants.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 04/24/2008 8:55:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

I was quite glad when that moron Ramsey left the Washington DC area. I was VERY very tired of seeing and hearing him spout his garbage on the local news stations every other day or so.

If you want to know how good a police chief he is, just look at the incredibly low crime rates he left behind in DC when he moved to Philly (har, har).

What a loser.


3 posted on 04/24/2008 8:56:24 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: neverdem
Yet, what baffles me the most is that these leaders wonder where criminals get the idea that laws don't apply to them!

Total freaking morons, a waste of oxygen. Who elected these idiots?

4 posted on 04/24/2008 9:12:16 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: neverdem

I wish people would stop confusing local law with federal law.


5 posted on 04/24/2008 9:12:38 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


6 posted on 04/24/2008 9:14:10 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Mr. K; Born Conservative; airborne; smoothsailing; Dr. Scarpetta; martin_fierro; Coop; Tribune7; ...
I wish people would stop confusing local law with federal law.

What federal law is involved? IIRC, this is a matter of city versus state, i.e. whether Philadelphia's or Pennsylvania's law takes precedence. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

7 posted on 04/24/2008 9:32:49 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: goldstategop

I read an interview of a lady who lived under the communists in the USSR. When asked how 5% of the population was able to control the other 95% she just said “they had all the guns”.


8 posted on 04/24/2008 9:36:40 AM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: smoketree

I saw a local newscast a few years ago where a reporterette went out into the streets of Philly looking to buy a gun. It too almost no time for her to find a dude who popped open his trunk and showed her an arsenal to choose from. The gun dealer said something to the effect that “gun control” was a real laugher.


9 posted on 04/24/2008 9:43:14 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: goldstategop

“Yet, what baffles me the most is that these leaders wonder where criminals get the idea that laws don’t apply to them! Don’t they see the example they set so publicly? The willful defiance has made headlines for weeks, reminding residents that the Council, mayor and police commissioner consider themselves to be above state law. Why shouldn’t average citizens be as well?... When government is above the law, people think its unjust and lawless.”

Sounds like a good concept to me, but who really believes it? I noticed how quickly people agreed that the President doesn’t have to obey the law so long as he claims it is necessary for the War on Terror. There’s always a good reason not to follow the law or the constitution. It takes men with strong backbones to stand up and demand that it be done.


10 posted on 04/24/2008 9:44:19 AM PDT by onguard
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"I noticed how quickly people agreed that the President doesn’t have to obey the law so long as he claims it is necessary for the War on Terror."

What law is the President breaking in the WOT?? If you are referring to waterboarding, there was nothing illegal about waterboarding when it was performed on the three scumbag terrorist.
11 posted on 04/24/2008 9:53:59 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: neverdem

You are correct. PA pre-empts local gov’t from passing gun control bills.


12 posted on 04/24/2008 10:05:55 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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You are correct. PA pre-empts local gov’t from passing gun control bills.

therefore the state police should be rounding em up, their votes/signatures are evidence of a crime...

If I were to openly break ANY law in this fashion, they wouldnt hesitate for a second...

ropes and lamposts are desperately needed around the country...

LFOD...

13 posted on 04/24/2008 10:19:51 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3

Their actions are void, but I don’t know if they are criminal, as the statutes are defined. Someone should sue them for attmpeting to deprive others of their civil rights under the color of law.


14 posted on 04/24/2008 10:22:08 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: neverdem; All

The referenced Philadelphia Inquirer article is why the 14th A. now makes a HUGE difference with respect to how the 2nd A. is interpreted. Regardless that DC (DC v. Heller) cannot make laws that infringe on gun rights, if it weren’t for the 14th A., Philadelphia could do so. This is because the Founders decided that federal BoR did not apply to the states. And the 14th A. not only changed the scope of the 2nd A. to include the states, but 14th A. lawmakers also clarified that the 2nd A. protects personal rights.


15 posted on 04/24/2008 12:07:20 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: goldstategop

It’s time for the people to act.


16 posted on 04/24/2008 12:47:01 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: SoothingDave
youre prolly correct, the only thing not illegal anymore is to blatantly propose and sign law after publicly stating that what youre doing defies superior legislative bodies...

sadly the fine print probly also forbids civil suits from standing...

Again...more tree-less rope...

17 posted on 04/24/2008 12:52:49 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Amendment10
if it weren’t for the 14th A., Philadelphia could do so.

Not the issue here. No local gov't can make a gun law. That's the PA state law.

18 posted on 04/24/2008 1:31:54 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Not the issue here. No local gov't can make a gun law. That's the PA state law.

Mea culpa.

I'm not familiar with the law in question, but I'm going to take your word for it. That's a good point and thanks for clarifying that there is such a state law.

19 posted on 04/24/2008 3:14:43 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

It’s called “pre-emption” and it’s what the NRA has been busy passing in many states while Washington does nothing.


20 posted on 04/24/2008 4:58:42 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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