Posted on 05/01/2008 2:34:20 PM PDT by vadum
Summary: Nuclear power is clean inexpensive energy that doesnt emit the greenhouse gases that environmental groups say are responsible for global warming. So why are Greenpeace and other environmental groups so determined to stop it? And what explains the unlikely coalition of environmentalists and statesmen who support nuclear energy?
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Word is out: Nuclear power is efficient and cost-effective, and it has both strong supporters and opponents in the environmental movement.
British scientist James Lovelock supports nuclear energy. The proponent of the Gaia hypothesis that the living and non-living parts of the Earth are a single organism says, I am a Green, and I entreat my friends in the movement to drop their wrongheaded objection to nuclear energy Every year that we continue burning carbon makes it worse for our descendents. ... Only one immediately available source does not cause global warming, and that is nuclear energy. So does Stewart Brand, founder of the hippie bible, the Whole Earth Catalog, who told Fortune magazine (August 6, 2007), Each new reactor is safer and cheaper and smaller and smarter than the previous one, and that will probably continue.
Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore reported his epiphany on nuclear power. In the early 1970s when I helped found Greenpeace, I believed that nuclear energy was synonymous with nuclear holocaust [but] my views have changed, and the rest of the environmental movement needs to update its views, too, because nuclear energy may just be the energy source that can save our planet from another possible disaster: catastrophic climate change, he wrote in a Washington Post op-ed (April 16, 2006).
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because they want to destroy civilization, primarily american civilization
it sounds bitter and reactionary, but it’s the truth.
Recently the founder of Greenpeace stated that he is pro-nuke and he doesn’t know if there is global warming or if man could be the cause of it if there was.
Or is it just American nuclear reactors they hate? Never hear about them protesting Chinese, Japanese, or French nuclear reactors.
one of the founders of greenpeace (can’t remember his name) says he favors the destruction of the old-growth rainforests in brazil. the reason is that young trees planted to replace them absorb more co2 in their growth cycle.
This battle was lost in the 70s by Jimmy Carter and the idiot Dems who let the antinuke crowd scare the beejesus out of the public.
Fact is, with modern plant design, nuclear power is as safe as any other type, much cleaner, and almost infinitely renewable.
Green is a thorn in Americas a##
The reason why we are in this energy mess
WE NEED TO DRILL HERE AND ALASKA
WE NEED TO DRILL OFF OUR SHORES
WE NEED TO BUILD REFINERIES
WE NEED TO BUILD NUCLEAR REACTORS
WE NEED TO NUETER THESE ECO TERRORISTS!
No oil. No coal. No nuclear. No wind turbines if they block their view. Give it time, they find something bad with solar power too.
What the do these watermelons want? They should be ridiculed and ignored!
Wind turbines produce electricity intermittently, but CONSUME it continuously:
A Problem With Wind Power
[www.aweo.org/windbackup.html]
by Eric Rosenbloom
Output figures from wind developers are typically annual averages expressed in the vague figure of “number of homes provided for.” Homes, however, account for only a third of all electricity use, and electricity represents only a third of all energy consumption (only a fifth in Vermont). Further, home use of electricity varies widely through the day, week, and year, but wind plants generate electricity by the whims of the wind rather than the actual needs of the grid.
As averages, the figures ignore the fact that hour to hour, day to day, season to season, even the most windy sites experience periods of calm when the turbines are producing no electricity at all and cycles of slower wind when they are producing far less than their maximum capacity. When the wind is too fast, the turbines must shut down to avoid damage.
This variability, they say, is balanced by wiring up a multitude of sites, one of which at any time must surely be producing significant power. Instead of a “free and clean” source of energy, then, the necessary proposal is an expensive network of redundant installations that must fill most of our land and seascapes to make any meaningful contribution.
Despite local variabilities, however, the overall rise and fall of the wind is generally the same over the larger region. The grid must plan for the likely low point, i.e., the least power it may see from all of the attached wind plants. Large power plants cannot respond quickly to the hourly variations of the wind, so they must be already going when the power from the wind plants drops off.
There are solutions to this on a small scale, but for most grid systems, any power produced by wind plants is therefore in practice superfluous. The backup generation is already providing it.
On top of this uselessness, the turbines use a great deal of electricity themselves. Most of them cannot even run without input from the grid. Although they produce electricity intermittently, they consume it continuously. In every report I’ve seen, input from the grid is not accounted for in the figures of net output. Specifications from turbine manufacturers do not include the amount of electricity they require.
It may be that large wind turbines use as much electricity as they produce. Whether the wind is blowing in the desired range or not, they need power to keep the generator magnetized, to keep the blade and generator assembly (92 tons on a 1.5-MW GE) facing the wind, to periodically spin that assembly to unwind the cables in the tower, to heat the blades in icy conditions, to start the blades turning when the wind is just getting fast enough to keep them going, to keep the blades pitched to spin at a regular rate, and to run the lights and internal control and communication systems.
It is clear that industrial wind generation is not able to contribute anything against the problems of global warming, pollution, nuclear waste, or dependence on imports. In Denmark, with the most per-capita wind turbines in the world, the output from wind facilities equals 15%-20% of their electricity consumption. The Copenhagen newspaper Politiken reported, however, that wind provided only 1.7% of the electricity actually used in 1999. The grid manager for western Denmark reported that in 2002 84% of their wind-generated electricity had to be exported, i.e., dumped at extreme discount. The turbines are often shut down, because it is so rare that good wind coincides with peaking demand. A director of the western Denmark utility has stated that wind turbines do not reduce CO2 emissions, the primary marker of fossil fuel use.
But industrial wind facilities are not just useless. They destroy the land, birds and bats, and the lives of their neighbors. Off shore, they endanger ships and boats and their low-frequency noise is likely harmful to sea mammals. They require subsidies and regulatory favors to make investment viable. They do not move us towards more sustainable energy sources and stand instead as monuments of delusion.
— December 2004
for the complete paper, including many links, click below
“A Problem With Wind Power”
[www.aweo.org]
Nuke enery is such a good deal
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html
Interesting pics of a well known nuke plant.
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