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To: nuconvert; Squantos

Whoops! I wonder what the record is for the oldest ordnance kill?


4 posted on 05/02/2008 5:36:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee; archy

This colonels comments are wrong in my “experience” but I expect that from those that fly, drive or navigate a desk........scraped up a bunch of folks that have tried to inert their own UXO from all eras. Cannon balls are really very dangerous. Lots of folks have em on the mantles and use em as door stops etc and never dream they are potential “cannon balls”....

I have seen old butterfly mines from WWII and mustard rounds from WWI killing folks. As well civil war, Mexican American war UXO being found in southern NM & TX. We drilled and steamed em with remote tooling set up for such to inert as they were crusty on the outside yet inside.....?:o)


27 posted on 05/02/2008 6:03:36 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos
Whoops! I wonder what the record is for the oldest ordnance kill?

There was a scuba-diving salvage fella killed in the late 1950s by a badly-handled flintlock/ black powder musketoon from the circa-1680 period. The muzzle, it seems, was found to have been blocked with a lead ball [big surprise there!] so since the proper *worm* for removal was unavailable, instead a torch was applied in attempt to melt the obstruction for removal. Shortly thereafter: BOOM!

It apparently never occurred to anyone that the watch on duty carried loaded weapons and that when the ship went down such niceties as unloading or discharging their hardware was not of a high priority to the surviving crew.

I doubt it's a *record* and am also aware of a Crimean War museum piece projectile [circa 1855] exploding during a storage facility fire, thankfully without resulting in human injury. But I'd bet that there have been occasions in which recovered explosive cannon shot were brought home to the family domicile and later exploded during residence fires have claimed more than a few unlucky or stupid folks, particularly in the days when homes were heated and cooking was done via open flames.

38 posted on 05/08/2008 12:50:32 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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