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Not All Credit Scores Created Equal
smartmoney.com ^ | 5/1/2008 | Aleksandra Todorova

Posted on 05/05/2008 5:32:15 AM PDT by shove_it

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To: KarlInOhio

He’ll bring out his other weapons like extended warranty and the like. Or his manager will refuse the deal.


41 posted on 05/05/2008 7:02:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ElmoMobito

No kidding.


42 posted on 05/05/2008 7:03:52 AM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out. All three of them.)
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To: ghostrider

Look at this from a business standpoint. The salesman is selling you the car based on the lowest %. When you get to the F&I guy, he’s trying to find the highest rate you will accept. I’ve seen interest rates change after the sale. Two weeks after the sale, you get word of a 5% increase.

If you buy a car, drive out THAT DAY with the car and don’t finance with the dealer unless you have a solid gold rating (and get 0%)


43 posted on 05/05/2008 7:06:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Mygirlsmom
NO ONE pays their medical bills, regardless of income level. To see a bureau without medical collections is a rare thing indeed.

The fact that one challenges (and may reject medical bills) should be a plus, because it shows that they are closely monitoring their bills and have the integrity to reject bad billing. Another massive fraud is known to be independent lab billings. I don't know if they are simply trying to evade the contracted insurance rates, evading the cost of insurance filings or just fishing for suckers who will pay anything billed.

44 posted on 05/05/2008 7:10:18 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: proxy_user

That’s exactly what I did. LS 400, check. Highlander, check. House, check. No interest, but because of that, my credit rating is not particularly good.


45 posted on 05/05/2008 7:12:07 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: AppyPappy

True. This is called “back-end money”. The dealership I worked at did not negotiate an interest rate with a customer. Rather, we took a general finance application and did a broadcast fax to about five lenders. The responses varied, generally, depending upon the FICO score and the amount of the loan, then we showed the customer the responses with the lowest rate, and let them choose. The lenders paid us a point on the loan, so no matter who the lender was, we got paid. Generally dealers nowadays prefer to sell you a loan instead of doing a cash transaction, which may have been attractive in the past. About 20% of our buyers were check-writers, another 20% got their own financing, and 60% wanted us to find a lender for them. The last 60% made us the most money, between profit on the car and back-end money on the loan. Then, if we sold them an extended warranty, that was gravy too. That’s how the used-car business works these days.


46 posted on 05/05/2008 7:26:03 AM PDT by PrkChps
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To: AppyPappy

I did that in 2005. Bought a Chrysler Pacifica at 36 months/0% interest. Paid off in 24 months.

Some of the best fun I’ve had is sitting across from the salesman armed with every bit of information I can get on wholesale value, dealer holdback percentages, my credit score, etc. Being a female, I look like a good mark. It’s a kick when they realize I’m not stupid.


47 posted on 05/05/2008 7:26:17 AM PDT by melissa_in_ga (Duncan Hunter for President 2008)
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To: Fresh Wind

Then they would have to file a Currency Transaction Report on you with Big Brother.


48 posted on 05/05/2008 7:27:57 AM PDT by RatRipper
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To: DManA

Or vice versa...


49 posted on 05/05/2008 7:32:37 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: RatRipper

Then, of course, you would be accused of being a terrorist or drug dealer and they would confiscate your money and/or car, no trial required. Still, it would be fun to watch the expression on the salesman’s face when you showed him the cash.


50 posted on 05/05/2008 7:36:32 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: shove_it
Almost two years ago, I bought a new car with a 0% loan. It wasn't a bad deal. I gave a low-ball offer as well ad they accepted it as well. The funny thing, the salesman that sold me the car left two weeks later ad went back to Massachusetts from Colorado. I also had a "stain" on my credit report - an unpaid parking ticket out-of-state - California.

The ironic thing, a lot of cities/towns are chasing out of state people for unpaid parking tickets not through "official channels" such as pulling your registration but through staining your credit report.
51 posted on 05/05/2008 7:38:53 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Mygirlsmom
*** And no one—NO ONE pays their medical bills, regardless of income level. ***

Apparently you've never had a Medical Bill (Doctor, Hospital, Lab Test, etc) you've disputed.

By the time you can get to a person who can make a decision and get a corrected Bill, some anonymous gum chewing ditz in accounting had sent the original one to a collection agency. And I do mean 'anonymous ditz'.

Just try to find out who made the decision to get a collection agency involved. All of a sudden they're all Clinton relatives and don't know anything or can't recall.

(been there, done that)

52 posted on 05/05/2008 7:45:15 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Fresh Wind
Still, it would be fun to watch the expression on the salesman’s face when you showed him the cash.

We bought a car with $24,000 in cash, all because my bank wanted to charge me $1.50 for a cashiers check and I refused to pay it. The lady at the cash desk counted it out like she does this kind of deal all the time, not a question asked.

53 posted on 05/05/2008 7:55:10 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: ElmoMobito
You are right. What bothers me is hospitals and doctors do not give a price list before the procedure. You have no idea how much you owe even with insurance. Given this I don't think medical bills should be on your credit bureau. They can sue you and prove to the court you owe it but to arbitrarily put a mark on your credit bureau without proof or agreement to final cost is ludicrous.
54 posted on 05/05/2008 7:55:53 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: shove_it

I don’t care if freecreditreport.com’s reports are bogus or not, their commercials are great


55 posted on 05/05/2008 8:00:30 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: snowsislander

Yes, what you want is your FICO score and you get it from myfico.com.

If you do a google search you can find discount coupons.

Also, you should prepare your credit for a major purchase:

Do not open new accounts.
Do not apply for new credit elsewhere.
Pay down your revolving credit, credit cards, to zero at least a month in advance.

This can raise your score 40 points or more.


56 posted on 05/05/2008 8:00:33 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: ghostrider
Credit scores are a bunch of hooey.

Yes, but it' hooey you have to play if you want to use credit to buy a car or house. It also affects your credit card limit and rates and your insurance rates, and in some cases your employability.

As for a medical lab charging 700.. PAY IT, then dispute it. Otherwise you've wrecked your credit. You must avoid ALL negative events. A one dollar collection or one late payment hurts you for a long time. It's not worth it.

57 posted on 05/05/2008 8:04:31 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
LS 400, check. Highlander, check. House, check. No interest, but because of that, my credit rating is not particularly good.

Crazy, isn't it.

58 posted on 05/05/2008 8:04:44 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Condor51
By the time you can get to a person who can make a decision and get a corrected Bill

The doctor is the one who performs the procedure and set the billing rate. Once I got a irregular bill and the doctors office would not discuss anything so I requested a meeting with the doctor. The office clerk just laugh and said the doctor does not meet with patients over billings. I told her to make appoint with the doctor and she told he charges for that. I said "Good" that will be my answer when we go to court. Never heard back from them.

59 posted on 05/05/2008 8:12:07 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: D-fendr
Yes, what you want is your FICO score and you get it from myfico.com.

If you do a google search you can find discount coupons.

Thank you; I have used myfico.com previously and I thought it was worthwhile at the regular price, so it's nice to know that it can be had at a discount.

60 posted on 05/05/2008 8:12:51 AM PDT by snowsislander
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