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American Spectator ^ | 14 may 08 | Larry Thornberry

Posted on 05/14/2008 3:54:31 AM PDT by rellimpank

If Republicans are going to be stampeded by phony environmental alarms and propose terrible public policies in the name of these scams, what the hell do we need Democrats for?

America is so far gone in the global warming superstition that the Republican candidate for president (the REPUBLICAN!) is proposing a Soviet scheme to take decisions about energy use out of the private sector where they belong and turn them over to politicians and bureaucrats. If there's a quicker way to make America into a Third World nation, pray tell me what it is.

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1 posted on 05/14/2008 3:54:32 AM PDT by rellimpank
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2 posted on 05/14/2008 3:57:19 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: rellimpank

Exactly right. McCain is in the wrong party.


3 posted on 05/14/2008 4:24:43 AM PDT by Rocky
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To: rellimpank

America is so far gone in the global warming superstition that the **CFR, NWO, Open Borders, Globalist**, candidate for president (the REPUBLICAN!) is proposing a Soviet scheme to take decisions about energy use out of the private sector where they belong and turn them over to politicians and bureaucrats.

Let be real now, OK?


4 posted on 05/14/2008 4:29:45 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: rellimpank

McCain fell for a bone-headed, sophmoric propaganda campaign designed by the PEW research center to pass campaign finance reform.

see this -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1367081/posts

Mr. McCain, as much as I don’t like saying it, is stupid. He can be easily manipulated by the left.


5 posted on 05/14/2008 4:37:51 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: wolfcreek

Mrs. Slowboat and I were despairing last night over the prospects for this country over the next eight years. Our sanctimonious “leaders” are putting up roadblocks to every form of progress in this country, then dispensing their little boons as rewards for politically correct behavior. Both sides are lost now, and it’s time for a new party that actually remembers what made the US great.


6 posted on 05/14/2008 4:39:42 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (It's a fine line between Guardian Angel and Stalker.)
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To: rellimpank
America is so far gone in the global warming superstition that the Republican candidate for president (the REPUBLICAN!) is proposing a Soviet scheme...

America is so far gone, period. :(

7 posted on 05/14/2008 4:47:19 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: SlowBoat407

McCain is an senile, arrogant, idiotic fool. He would be an utter horror for this country. If the country is going to be driven full speed into a ditch I’d prefer that Obama is at the wheel and takes the blame. It’s sad that it has come to the point where I believe Hillary is the least terrible (slightly) viable option. She’s an evil, pandering socialist but, sadly, probably the least incompetent one left.

At this point all I can hope is that the second coming of Jimmy Carter is a one termer too.

Fred in ‘12. If there is a country left.


8 posted on 05/14/2008 4:55:34 AM PDT by mike-zed
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To: Rocky

right...Mccain the dem and probably just a little to the left of hill.


9 posted on 05/14/2008 4:58:56 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: mike-zed
It’s sad that it has come to the point where I believe Hillary is the least terrible (slightly) viable option. She’s an evil, pandering socialist but, sadly, probably the least incompetent one left.

There's one good thing about the Clintons: they're corrupt, meaning they can be had. Al Capone sponged off the Chicago economy and did horrible things to anybody who got in his way but didn't accept a wild-eyed, destructive myth as fact and try to ruin the Chicago economy with it. If the Witch were the DemonRAt candidate, I'd have no problem voting Libertarian.

10 posted on 05/14/2008 5:03:11 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: rellimpank
We've agreed that McCain isn't stupid

I don't remember agreeing to this. To the contrary, I believe he is stupid and probably a little senile as well.

11 posted on 05/14/2008 5:14:13 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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Maybe McCain is both stupid and cynical. He’s clearly cynical.

McCain has been reversing positions across the board. He’s promised to extend the Bush tax cuts (i.e., prevent a tax hike) and to appoint strict constructionists to the judiciary.

Don’t buy it.

People don’t change. Mr. Voodoo Economics himself (GHW Bush) once promised, “Read my lips, no new taxes.” It got him into office, then he raised taxes. McCain would be no different. He would jack up taxes. Bank on it.

Mr. Gang of 14 will not suddenly change from his past preference of liberal-legislate-from-the-bench jurists if elected. We’ll get David Souters to replace every vacancy.

McCain is a cynic. Is he stupid?

For him to come out with the global warming speech, he’s got to be stupid. He’s been pandering to the GOP base, trying hard to get conservatives to line up and hold their noses while voting. Talk radio’s been rallying around him, no matter what their personal misgivings.

Now, with this cap and trade speech he’s jumped the shark. Conservatives are undergoing mass depression and falling by the wayside. This is a stupid move politically.

Thomas Sowell recently wrote, “Senator John McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama can cause me to vote for McCain.”

McCain’s cap and trade speech sounds like an impassioned attempt to talk Sowell out of his vote.

If McCain buys into the anthropogenic global warming theory...

AND thinks that a couple of degrees increase in temperature would be a bad thing (before politics enveloped climate science, warmer periods used to be called “climate optimums”)...

AND that man couldn’t adapt (if living in Phoenix can’t convince one that man can adapt to higher temperatures, what can?)...

AND needed the support of the conservative base to win office...

THEN he should have kept mum until after the election.

He’s already shown he’s willing to (temporarily) change long held beliefs in the pursuit of presidential power. Why come out sounding like Al Gore? It’s nearly the equivalent of proclaiming the need for a top marginal rate of 98%. Politically, it’s suicidal...

UNLESS McCain is so confident that he doesn’t think he needs the GOP base to win. If he calculates that Obama is such a weak candidate with so much garbage that he can win even if conservatives sit this one out, then McCain can say almost anything he wants.

For many conservatives, McCain revealed too much of himself making it apparent that a McCain choice is no choice. We get the same taxes, the same judges, the same regulations, and the same submission to the U.N. as the Democrats. He truly is a Democrat at a 10% discount.

You can point to the war as a point of genuine difference. McCain won’t cut and run. Maybe. Who knows what he would do? He’s promised to shut down Gitmo, which is unwise tactically and strategically. Who knows what he would do?

This much is certain. With a McCain presidency, we can’t even attempt to rally rank and file Republicans in Congress to oppose him. Soon, they would be irrelevant because the president and his party would get blamed for the McCain malaise catastrophy. Mid-terms will bring even more Democrats.

This is a disaster for the Republican Party and the party may well fracture during a McCain presidency when conservatives find themselves unable to support liberal GOP policy.

Maybe McCain is the Manchurian Candidate after all.


12 posted on 05/14/2008 7:06:22 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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Yes. This is a very depressing election cycle. McCain offers conservatives little difference between the candidates.

I'm wrestling with the write-in option. I have never liked the McCain hot-headed personality nor his political posturing. I don't trust him.

I wonder if this John McCain And The USS Forrestal Fire is true.

13 posted on 05/14/2008 7:33:42 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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Sorry, FRiend, but the source you provided is pretty revolting and not appropriate for this forum.


14 posted on 05/14/2008 8:00:37 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (It's a fine line between Guardian Angel and Stalker.)
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To: SlowBoat407
Both sides are lost now, and it’s time for a new party that actually remembers what made the US great.

Yes, they are. But a new party is not the answer.

The answer is to have the Conservative Party take back the Republican Party. The liberals took over the Democrat Party, so we should be able to take back the Republican Party and move it right.

I was actually thinking of voting for McCain just because he is possibly the lesser of two evils. Since his "plan" on Global Warming, I decided I will not vote for any major Presidential Candidate. It's a crap shoot. We have to pull this party away from the moderates.

15 posted on 05/14/2008 9:53:59 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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16 posted on 05/14/2008 11:39:43 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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“We have to pull this party away from the moderates.”

I think all Conservatives should boycott McCain this cycle and see if he can win without us. (God forbid)

If not, hopefully it will send a strong message to the GOP to take us much more seriously.


17 posted on 05/14/2008 12:24:05 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To the McCain-bashers on FR: does the phrase “cutting off your nose to spite your face” mean anything to you?

That’s exactly what you’d be doing by either voting for Hillary or Obama, or by not voting at all. Do you really want the Dems to win the White House just to prove a point?

I agree that McCain isn’t as conservative as I’d like, but apparently many other Republicans are perfectly happy with him, else we’d have some other nominee by now.

So what’s the alternative? Vote for a Democrat? Please!

Sit out the election? You’ll certainly hand the election to the Democrats then — I just don’t see the logic or reason in such a boycott . . .


18 posted on 05/14/2008 1:07:20 PM PDT by fgoodwin (Fundamentalist, right-wing nut and proud father of a Life Scout!)
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19 posted on 05/14/2008 1:41:58 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: rellimpank

Every time i start to warm up to this guy he... opens his mouth.

The latest i heard is that he is thinking of Huckabee for vp. If that happens I’ll be writing in “none-of-the-above”.


20 posted on 05/14/2008 2:06:03 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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