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Obama Whiffs
IBD ^ | May 16, 2008

Posted on 05/16/2008 6:05:31 PM PDT by Kaslin

Appeasement: In slamming President Bush and John McCain, Barack Obama seemed to follow political consultant Jim Carville's rule: "You've got to be willing to fight." But what Obama is defending is indefensible.


When the first President Bush charged in 1992 that the only way rival Bill Clinton could keep his big-spending campaign promises was by raising taxes on families earning $36,000 and up, Clinton hit back hard.

"It is a disgrace to the American people that the president of the United States would make a claim that is so baseless, so without foundation, so shameless, in an attempt to get votes under false pretenses," he charged.

Of course, Clinton proceeded to raise taxes on families making way below $36,000. But his attack worked. Carville, the man who ran that historically successful campaign, believed in the art of counterpunch. One of his "Ten Rules for Progressives to Live By" is: "Sometimes you've got to be willing to fight. Period."

Now, in a fashion nearly identical to Clinton, Sen. Obama has hit back hard at his accusers, President Bush and Sen. McCain. In this case, however, the counterpunch may end up being a wild haymaker that only makes its thrower look foolish.

In South Dakota on Friday, Obama complained that Bush, in a speech the day before to Israel's Knesset, "accused me and other Democrats of wanting to negotiate with terrorists and said we were appeasers no different from people who appeased Adolf Hitler." Then he said McCain "has repeated this notion that I'm prepared to negotiate with terrorists. I have never said that."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; appeasement; beeho; bush; obama

1 posted on 05/16/2008 6:07:01 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

A lot of people are upset about President Bush’s border policy but think he’s a good “war” president. It wouldn’t take a lot on his part to get the base rallying again. Obama attacking him won’t be viewed kindly by a lot of us.


2 posted on 05/16/2008 6:10:41 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Kaslin

I love it. He goes ballistic at the slightest whiff of criticism. Bush didn’t even mention him by name, and neither did McCain, but Obama knew they were talking about him (the truth hurts, doesn’t it?) and he instantly falls for it, hook line and sinker.

Can’t imagine how he would handle a guy like Hugo Chavez or Kim Jong Il.

If there is anything that really exposes his inexperience, not to mention general stupidity, this is it. He’s way out of his league.


3 posted on 05/16/2008 6:13:09 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: Kaslin
"But Obama's Web site says he will negotiate with terrorists. "Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions," it states."

Time to barrage the MSM with info on the terrorist nature of Iran's regime -- it is the #1 supporter of terrorism in the world, it is in reality a TERRORIST STATE, and has killed large numbers of Americans as well as so many more of many other nationalities.

Obama says he will meet directly (negotiate) with Iran's leaders

Iranian leaders = terrorists

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Obama will negotiate with terrorists, Q.E.D.
4 posted on 05/16/2008 6:20:03 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

I think it was a strategic mistake for Obama to do this. I doubt many people paid attention to the appeasement remarks. Now, everyone is doing so.


5 posted on 05/16/2008 6:25:01 PM PDT by maro
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Have you noticed that the guilty ones always protest the loudest that the guilty ones always protest the loudest?


6 posted on 05/16/2008 6:26:18 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin

Have you noticed that the guilty ones always protest the loudest that the guilty ones always protest the loudest?
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I’ve noticed that I’ve noticed that.


7 posted on 05/16/2008 6:30:10 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre

oops. LOL


8 posted on 05/16/2008 6:36:41 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin

Last I looked Bush wasn’t running for anything—he’s not seeking votes. Richard Senate


9 posted on 05/16/2008 6:39:50 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Actually, I think Obama manufactured this. This gave him free air time to make another messianic “speech”.

However, this may rebound on him. It depends how many people are dumb enough to fall for it.


10 posted on 05/16/2008 6:54:27 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Kaslin

When you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that starts yelping and whining is not the one you missed.


11 posted on 05/16/2008 6:59:23 PM PDT by csmusaret (John McCain is the evil of three lessers)
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To: Kaslin

Remember when Barbara Bush went to the 1996 Republican convention, and introduced her husband to speak saying something about how her husband had brought dignity to the White house.

The Democrats attacked her for a personal attack on Clinton.


12 posted on 05/16/2008 7:24:44 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT (Green, but not gullible)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

The Magic Mulatto is a whiney little turd. What a wuss! He shrieks in panic when someone says something that in all likelihood wasn’t even addressed to him (hell, I thought Bush was talking about the UN in that speech).


13 posted on 05/16/2008 7:51:11 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

That’s what I thought, too. He could just as well have been jabbing the UN. I think I heard a spokesman for either Bush or McCain (can’t remember which now) who basically expressed amusement that Obama even thought that the comments were about him.

To paraphrase that Carly Simon song: “You’re so vain, you probably think this speech is about you...”

Love the way he’s bringing negative attention to himself with things that would probably have slipped under the radar otherwise!


14 posted on 05/16/2008 8:06:20 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
IBD has the perfect cartoon in today's edition


15 posted on 05/16/2008 8:36:34 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: ought-six
... hell, I thought Bush was talking about the UN in that speech ...

I thought he was talking about our State Department!

16 posted on 05/16/2008 9:06:41 PM PDT by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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To: Kaslin
In South Dakota on Friday, Obama complained that Bush, in a speech the day before to Israel's Knesset, "accused me and other Democrats of wanting to negotiate with terrorists and said we were appeasers no different from people who appeased Adolf Hitler."...the shoe fits and Obama puts it right on.......
17 posted on 05/16/2008 9:07:01 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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