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Obama would take California in November, Times/KTLA poll finds (w shocking internals)
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 23, 2008 | Cathleen Decker

Posted on 05/23/2008 6:10:11 PM PDT by FocusNexus

Key to Obama's strength in California, at this point, is the group that was largely ignored in the run-up to the primary: men. Overall, Obama held a 10-point advantage over McCain among men, while Clinton split men with McCain. White men gave McCain a three-point advantage over Obama, and a wider 15-point edge over Clinton. Nonwhite men sided with the Democrats in landslide proportions.

With Republicans now only about one-third of the California electorate, GOP candidates must reach deeply into the ranks of moderates if they are to win statewide. There, McCain was faltering. He was losing moderates to Clinton by 24 points, and to Obama by 30 points.

He was also having a difficult time holding on to his own party members. One in five Republicans surveyed by the poll sided with Obama in their matchup. McCain won only 70% of his party colleagues, not enough to offset losing independents and 75% of Democrats to Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; ca2008; california; clinton; conservatives; elections; mccain; obama; obamacans; obamacons
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20% of Republicans preferring Obama to McCain.

Now THAT is distressing.

1 posted on 05/23/2008 6:10:12 PM PDT by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

I smell bs in the air


2 posted on 05/23/2008 6:11:15 PM PDT by italianquaker (Odumbo the buffoon)
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To: FocusNexus

Where are the quotes around “Republicans”?


3 posted on 05/23/2008 6:11:47 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: FocusNexus

I don’t buy it.

McCain does much better among independents in many polls, esp. in OH, PA, and even New England.


4 posted on 05/23/2008 6:13:09 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: FocusNexus

It’s called the “Wilder effect”.....


5 posted on 05/23/2008 6:14:38 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
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To: RockinRight
There are no Independents.

Odds are good that any Republican will get 2/3 or more of the men in California once gay marriage takes over the Fall campaign.

6 posted on 05/23/2008 6:15:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FocusNexus
Doesn't surprise me; take a look around this board, if faced with the single choice of voting for McCain or Obama, several on here have bluntly stated they'd rather have Obama.

I still think California's a swing state this go around, especially if Obama’s team decides to ignore it. But during the primaries, I heard many a Republican state that they'd never vote for McCain.

7 posted on 05/23/2008 6:16:26 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: italianquaker

California going Democrat is not news....and McCain has huge problems...going left will not solve them.


8 posted on 05/23/2008 6:16:54 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: FocusNexus

LA Times selects the facts that fit to right the story they want. I can see 20% of the he republicans not voting for McCain But it doesn’t mean they will vote for Obama.


9 posted on 05/23/2008 6:17:14 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: FocusNexus

Oh dear, and I thought the propaganda machine in North Korea was good but this is so blatant./Just Asking - seoul62.......


10 posted on 05/23/2008 6:20:09 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: FocusNexus

Where are the details of the poll? Californians? Registered Voters? Likely Voters? How did they select likely voters?


11 posted on 05/23/2008 6:25:38 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: kingu

Screw California. President Bush have showed in ‘00 and ‘04 that there’s a strategy to win the electoral college bypassing california, illinois and new yawk.


12 posted on 05/23/2008 6:29:33 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Question_Assumptions
Where are the details of the poll? Californians? Registered Voters? Likely Voters? How did they select likely voters?

The poll was limited to those likely to take it up the rear.

13 posted on 05/23/2008 6:30:44 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: FocusNexus
One in five Republicans surveyed by the poll sided with Obama in their matchup.

One in five Republicans still support liberal george W. Bush so I find this statement to be very possible.

14 posted on 05/23/2008 6:32:27 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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LA Times? I wouldn’t believe the date they put on the top of the pages.


15 posted on 05/23/2008 6:33:05 PM PDT by imintrouble
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To: kingu

Remember, Los Angeles is mostly black and hispanic....they will go with Obama.


16 posted on 05/23/2008 6:34:36 PM PDT by RC2
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To: FocusNexus

LA Times is just worried that 40% of Hillary voters will sit it out or vote for McLiberal as a better alternative.

This is their lame attempt to counter it. The sheeple might be dumb enough to go along.


17 posted on 05/23/2008 6:36:07 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: goodnesswins; FocusNexus
It’s called the “Wilder effect”.....

In Californistan, wouldn't that be the Bradley Effect?

18 posted on 05/23/2008 6:37:29 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
"California going Democrat is not news....and McCain has huge problems...going left will not solve them."

Not exactly a revelation that CA will be in the Democrat column come Nov. At least, it should not be news to anyone that is not mentally impaired.

19 posted on 05/23/2008 6:37:36 PM PDT by penowa
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yep...you ARE correct.....in California it’s the “Bradley Effect.”


20 posted on 05/23/2008 6:42:23 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
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