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Texas fights return of FLDS kids
Deseret News ^ | May 24, 2008 | Ben Winslow and Brian West

Posted on 05/24/2008 4:54:55 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

SAN ANGELO, Texas — The day after FLDS mothers celebrated an appeals court decision ordering the return of their children, child welfare officials went to the Texas Supreme Court to prevent it. The Texas Department of Family and Protective Services asked the Supreme Court to stay the 3rd Court of Appeals order and keep the children where they are, in foster facilities, until the high court considers its arguments. Attorneys argued the more than 450 children will "suffer irreparable harm" if the appellate court order is followed and says the children "will be at risk of sexual and emotional abuse" if returned to their parents.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cultists; custody; flds; jeffs
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If TX authorities really cared about the children, they would never have subjected them to a Janet Reno style raid, based on a false report no less.
1 posted on 05/24/2008 4:54:55 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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Just who IS behind this raid?


2 posted on 05/24/2008 5:09:16 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

They should arrest my mother. I was born when she was 16. While they’re at it they can raid millions of other homes too since the same stuff happens every day all across the country.


3 posted on 05/24/2008 5:10:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Attorneys argued the more than 450 children will "suffer irreparable harm" if the appellate court order is followed and says the children "will be at risk of sexual and emotional abuse" if returned to their parents.

What a load of bull. It is a power trip of unbelievable proportions from CPS and crew.

4 posted on 05/24/2008 5:11:41 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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the children "will be at risk of sexual and emotional abuse" if returned to their parents. Even though Texas CPS failed provide a single instance to District Judge Barbara Walther or the Texas 3rd District Court of Appeals of any child abuse. "In its ruling, the appeals court ruled that the state agency failed to provide any evidence that the children were in imminent danger and acted hastily in removing them from their families." "The Department did not present any evidence of danger to the physical health or safety of any male children or any female children who had not reached puberty."
5 posted on 05/24/2008 5:13:33 AM PDT by ktime
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“They should arrest my mother. I was born when she was 16. “

Ha! Come to think of it, my sister started having babies when she was 16. I know a woman who got married when she was 13 and started having babies.


6 posted on 05/24/2008 5:16:55 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: rusureitflies?

“Just who IS behind this raid?”

My husband says it’s because someone wants the FLDS ranch property. The FLDS paid $700,000 for it and now it’s worth millions after FLDS made so many improvements. You know, at first I thought hubby was goofy but now I’m starting to wonder. Yesterday, the TX authorities released 12 kids back to their parents with the stipulation they not return to the ranch. Hmmmmm.


7 posted on 05/24/2008 5:19:07 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: TLI

“It is a power trip of unbelievable proportions from CPS and crew. “

I agree. I just hope they don’t get away with it. Remember, it all started with a lie.


8 posted on 05/24/2008 5:20:18 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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"The Department did not present any evidence of danger to the physical health or safety of any male children or any female children who had not reached puberty."

WOW.

Check this...

The department (of CPS) said it would not be safe for any child to return to the ranch "because the adults on the ranch expressed that they 'aren't doing anything harmful to their children.'"

Soooo, the "evidence" that CPS is attempting to put forth is the lack of evidence? CPS has lost every marble in their collective bag.

9 posted on 05/24/2008 5:22:08 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: ktime

Texas authorities are worried that the FLDS children may some day be abused but they can’t say when or how or by whom but they are pretty sure it might happen . . . some day. Ha! Is this my America?


10 posted on 05/24/2008 5:22:46 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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While I’m at it I may as well point out that the fact that my mother was a young mother did not end with me being a young father (I have no children). My youngest sister didn’t have her first till she was 25 years old and my oldest sister was 30 when her son was born.

For that matter my oldest best friend had his first at 15. His daughter didn’t have her first till she was 23 and had left the marines.


11 posted on 05/24/2008 5:23:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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State may try to seize sect's property
12 posted on 05/24/2008 5:23:53 AM PDT by Wolfie
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>> “Ostler McCarthy, staff attorney for the Texas Supreme Court, said the justices requested the trial record Friday from the 3rd Court of Appeals — an indication that it plans to work on the case over the weekend.”

That’s good. The appeal is normal procedure, but they need to get right on it.

>> “[CPS] is an agency that’s out of control.”

Ain’t that the truth. CPS needs to be knocked back HARD. They need much more supervision and much less freedom to pull their extra-constitutional crapola.


13 posted on 05/24/2008 5:24:34 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Find out who wants the land and which politicians they’ve contributed to.

Are Rick Perry or some legislators involved?

I don’t know any facts, but if you find some you’ve got a case to make.


14 posted on 05/24/2008 5:24:54 AM PDT by Nextrush (MCCAIN, OBAMA, CLINTON......WHAT A CHOICE?)
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Remember, it all started with a lie.

Fake but accurate. Where have I heard that insanity before? Perhaps Dan Rather is consulting with CPS on this one.

15 posted on 05/24/2008 5:26:26 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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They should arrest my mother. I was born when she was 16.

Well, and your father. And whoever out there is perpetuating a culture that tells kids sex before age 18 is okay. And they should ensure that all kids who have kids are NOT returned to any culture that is promoting and even idealizing underage sex. (/sarc)

16 posted on 05/24/2008 5:27:25 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Wolfie

Find out who’s giving money to the state legislator in this article and if its connected to someone who may be interested in taking the land.


17 posted on 05/24/2008 5:27:50 AM PDT by Nextrush (MCCAIN, OBAMA, CLINTON......WHAT A CHOICE?)
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To: TLI

“Soooo, the “evidence” that CPS is attempting to put forth is the lack of evidence? CPS has lost every marble in their collective bag. “

You made me laugh. According to CPS’ interpretation of the Constitution, they have the authority to raid a ranch on the basis of a false report and round up every child. They never did find the “evidence” but I guess that doesn’t matter. They have the kids in foster homes being monitored and by now those poor kids are probably ready to tell them anything CPS wants to hear; the pressure is on. Poor little kids. All they want is to be with their moms. I would not put it past those lying bureaucrats to tell the kids they can return to their mothers if they’ll just fess up.


18 posted on 05/24/2008 5:29:58 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Wolfie

Thanks for link to article about the State contemplating seizing FLDS property. Good Lord have mercy!! However, if the TX Supremes rule in favor of FLDS, ALL of the “evidence” gathered thus far will be useless because it was gained illegally.

Anyway, my husband is convinced that this whole thing is about that ranch property which is now worth millions.


19 posted on 05/24/2008 5:33:57 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Wolfie
The remarks came after the panel heard testimony that providing foster care, Medicaid coverage and casework for the children from the YFZ (Yearning For Zion) Ranch will likely cost taxpayers more than $1.7 million a month for as long as they are in state custody. The figure does not include the $5.3 million for the first six weeks of the operation or the cost of providing the required legal representation for each child, which is likely to total at least $2.2 million.

I said from the very beginning that this was going to cost the taxpayer a truckload and the State agencies and LEO's were gonna duck the responsibility. And here we go.

20 posted on 05/24/2008 5:34:39 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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