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To: Josh Painter

I’m so sick of Dems responding to Second Amendment questions with, “Well I’m for Hunters and sportsmen, if it weren’t for them blah blah...”.
What about the individual who owns a gun to defend himself from others who would do him harm? What about the gun owners who own weapons to keep government power in check? What are you going to say to them Obama? Oh, we don’t need to worry about that, the government will keep us safe at night...


3 posted on 05/24/2008 2:45:42 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: miliantnutcase
"I’m so sick of Dems responding to Second Amendment questions with, “Well I’m for Hunters and sportsmen, if it weren’t for them blah blah...”."

Ditto. The 2nd used to be my number one issue, it was the issue that got me interested in politics. It was right after the Columbine shootings, I was a teen at the time and had paid scarce attention to anything to do with politics. I quickly learned how not only was it mainly the democrats who were pushing gun control, but the dems also happened to support most everything else I naturally disagreed with. In the aftermath of the Columbine shootings I also discovered media bias, while watching all of the TV networks and CNN(those were my only sources of news at the time). I saw how Clinton and the other dems would go on TV distorting and lying about firearms ownership and gun control, and then watching the media repeat the talking points as if they were the truth, all of their reporting was based on a biased premise created by those talking points. A year later I was bored, looking for news on the radio, and discovered Rush. I've been a libertarian minded conservative ever since.

Now years later, after the dems have gotten their asses thoroughly beaten over the years, losing many congressional seats and two presidential elections, largely because of their position on gun control, they have went from talking about bans 10 years ago to loving "hunters and sportsmen". Now the liberals are taking a slower approach to gun control; divide and conquer. They apparently feel if they can separate the hunters from other gun owners, painting the other gun owners as extremists, they can gain some headway. As gun owners, we all need to stick together, and support 2nd amendment political organizations, continue to own guns, and VOTE accordingly. I'm waiting to hear more from McCain on how he feels regarding gun control. I believe his past on gun control may be dubious.

(Wow. I didn't click the reply button with the intention of telling you a story. lol)

11 posted on 05/24/2008 3:10:59 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: miliantnutcase; Josh Painter
I’m so sick of Dems responding to Second Amendment questions with, “Well I’m for Hunters and sportsmen, if it weren’t for them blah blah...”.

Well, you're not nearly as sick of them as I am of Republicans who are too cowardly to speak up and call them on those comments for the liars they are...

When is the last time you head a Republican official state "the Second Amendment is not about hunting or sporting use, it's about freedom and the unalienable right of free citizens to have the means to cast off a government when it becomes oppressive..."

In my recent memory the only public person I can recall who emphatically articulated this essential truth was Fred Thompson during his abortive campaign. There have been others in the past, however, even Democrats (back in the days when Democrats weren't actually totalitarian socialists):

"Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used, and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible." Sen. Hubert Humphrey, "Know Your Lawmakers", Guns Magazine, Page 4, Feb. 1960.

We have no such leaders today. Our culture and our political process is now so corrupted and degraded that any political aspirant who clearly stated something such as this would be "weeded-out" before they ever attained high office.

14 posted on 05/24/2008 4:02:10 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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