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In one of George Macdonald Frazier's "Flashman" books, Harry Flashman is watching a public hanging. The man next to him suggests that he watch not the hanging itself, but the reaction of his fellow Britons to it; he promises that it will be far more entertaining and enlightening.

Similarly, the point that a lot of people are missing is not Michael Pfleger's racist hate speech from the pulpit of Barack and Michelle Obama's church, but the enthusiastic reaction of the Obamas' fellow congregants. These are the people with whom the Obamas have gone to church for twenty years.

http://www.stentorian.com/cartoons/2008/pfleger_tucc.jpg for a screenshot of six YouTube video frames, and it shows the reaction of the Obamas' fellow TUCC members, including official-looking men in blue jackets, to Pfleger's praise for Louis Farrakhan and "There were a whole lot of white people crying."

1 posted on 06/02/2008 10:47:47 AM PDT by Winged Hussar
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To: Rodney King

Any other questions?

2 posted on 06/02/2008 10:50:52 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Winged Hussar

“Suppose that a political candidate of the Caucasian persuasion belonged to a church whose minister (call him JimCrow White for the sake of argument) consorted openly with the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan”

Makes you wonder what church Robert Byrd attends.


3 posted on 06/02/2008 10:51:06 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: Winged Hussar

From NR today.

http://falsani.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obama-2004-god-factor-interview.html

GG:
Do You still attend Trinity?

OBAMA:
Yep. Every week. 11 oclock service.

Ever been there? Good service.

I actually wrote a book called Dreams from My Father, it’s kind of a meditation on race. There’s a whole chapter on the church in that, and my first visits to Trinity.

I think what Obama meant to say is, “Every week, except when Wright is planning on saying something controversial, I stay home so I can deny it later — in other words, I hardly ever attend.” There’s also this:

GG:
Do you have people in your life that you look to for guidance?

OBAMA:
Well, my pastor is certainly someone who I have an enormous amount of respect for.
I have a number of friends who are ministers. Reverend Meeks is a close friend and colleague of mine in the state Senate. Father Michael Pfleger is a dear friend, and somebody I interact with closely.


4 posted on 06/02/2008 10:54:55 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: Winged Hussar

and it is for all the above reasons that Barack Obama will not be elected president.


5 posted on 06/02/2008 10:55:59 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: Winged Hussar
Yo Obama! ...Don't Hate Me Bro!
7 posted on 06/02/2008 11:00:06 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Winged Hussar

Obama's Preacher Problems Mean Nothing to Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Fanatical Cult and to Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas.


This is my church, the one I never quit.


9 posted on 06/02/2008 11:05:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Pastor Wright: "God Damn America, U.S.to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Winged Hussar

C’mon now. You know blacks can not be racist. They must be judged by a different standard because of the color of their skin, and not by the content of their character. /sarc


10 posted on 06/02/2008 11:06:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Winged Hussar
Similarly, the point that a lot of people are missing is not Michael Pfleger's racist hate speech from the pulpit of Barack and Michelle Obama's church, but the enthusiastic reaction of the Obamas' fellow congregants. These are the people with whom the Obamas have gone to church for twenty years.

Not missed here. More sickening than Mr. Wright's and Pfleger's miss-use of the pulpit, was the manner in which the people in this 'church' lapped it up. This is supposed to be a place and time (Sunday) where Christ is preached -- but instead hate was served - and the people loved it...

30 A wonderful ['amazing'] and horrible thing is committed in the land;
31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

11 posted on 06/02/2008 11:11:35 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Winged Hussar

FR bookmark , .. yee-eeOW’suh , .. Osama Obama & micHELLe


13 posted on 06/02/2008 11:12:40 AM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: Winged Hussar
In one of George Macdonald Frazier's "Flashman" books, Harry Flashman is watching a public hanging. The man next to him suggests that he watch not the hanging itself, but the reaction of his fellow Britons to it; he promises that it will be far more entertaining and enlightening.

Similarly, the point that a lot of people are missing is not Michael Pfleger's racist hate speech from the pulpit of Barack and Michelle Obama's church, but the enthusiastic reaction of the Obamas' fellow congregants. These are the people with whom the Obamas have gone to church for twenty years.

This is an excellent point. It cannot be overemphasized.

14 posted on 06/02/2008 11:14:36 AM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Winged Hussar

“Similarly, the point that a lot of people are missing is not Michael Pfleger’s racist hate speech from the pulpit of Barack and Michelle Obama’s church, but the enthusiastic reaction of the Obamas’ fellow congregants.”

I have only heard O’Rielly comment on that-no other journalists. But, it is basic to the whole issue of Obama and his association with Wright. Wright is incidental to the whole flap. What matters is that a great many people support Wright or would support someone else just like him, (materially and ideologically) otherwise, none of the outrageous hate speech would have gone on for so very long in that ‘church’.

How could a man who wants to lead this country have spent so much time in that environment and not know instinctively that he was out of his element, unless he thought he was IN his element there? Conservatives should NEVER drop this issue and should hammer Obama with it ad infinitum right up till election day! Obama does NOT belong in the WH, and neither does any one with such very extreme views. Extremism will not serve this country!!!


15 posted on 06/02/2008 11:14:53 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: Winged Hussar
The same minister proclaimed that the Black people in New Orleans got a wake-up call with Hurricane Katrina

Didn't Hagee make some disparaging remarks about Katrina?

17 posted on 06/02/2008 11:25:26 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Winged Hussar

True, but they get a free pass for obvious reasons.
(the media want Obama to be president)


19 posted on 06/02/2008 11:43:19 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Winged Hussar

...

Gadzooks! I can never tell which is which... on those last two.

21 posted on 06/02/2008 12:02:46 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Winged Hussar

Where do you draw the line between a hate group and a grievance group? Or between racism and the kind of political animosities that are all too familiar? Or between being affirmative or positive about one’s own group and running down others? Or between what amuses people as entertainment and what they truly believe. It’s not always clear-cut. I’m not saying you’re wrong about Wright and Obama, just that some people are way too happy to throw the r word around as freely as the left does.


22 posted on 06/02/2008 12:35:34 PM PDT by x
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To: Winged Hussar
"The same minister proclaimed that the Black people in New Orleans got a wake-up call with Hurricane Katrina."

Uh.....they better look again..
Seems like the brood mares and leaches went back to sleep, or back to their life of dependency on others, drugs, crime and breeding bastards.

25 posted on 06/02/2008 1:37:53 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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