New Fuel Cell System 'Generates Electricity with Only Water, Air'

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080613/153276/ ^ | 06-13-2008 | Kouji Kariatsumari, Nikkei Electronics

[Redcloak]

Unfortunately, since the system is Japanese, it attracts monsters bent upon destroying Tokyo whenever it’s turned on. It’s a good idea, in theory, but falls short in actual application.

[Camel Joe]

Well it didn’t explictly say we couldn’t fly but it certainly intoned it... lol

[willgolfforfood]

So, how about a little "back of the envelope" math here.

From the picture, it appears that a one cubic foot power device generates 120 watts.

120 watts = 0.16 HP.

A one cubic foot gasoline engine, if you don't include all the air filters, exhaust piping, etc. probably could generate 15-25 HP. Like a "typical" riding lawnmower engine.

So then, the energy density as compared to a gasoline engine is, broadly - about a ratio of 100:1.

So to buy a car with a 200 HP engine of this type would take an engine 100 TIMES LARGER than your current gasoline engine.

Get back with me when this can be mass produced AND they can also shrink it by about a factor of 50. That might actually be possible some day. Right now, it's a laboratory anomaly that they appear to be using to power a golf cart.

[Slings and Arrows]

Well it didn’t explictly say we couldn’t fly but it certainly intoned it... lol

I didn't even know that Newton's Laws could sing.

[UCANSEE2]

“300W generation system mounted in a luggage room “

That won’t even power the subwoofers.

[KarlInOhio]

Newton’s Law of Gravity once told us we could not fly,

When? Gravity just means that you have to work hard to fly and it took quite a while before the amount of work you could do and the amound you needed to get in to the air matched.

I've heard similar things about people thinking the speed of sound couldn't be broken before Chuck Yeager. Rifle bullets could do it easily, but it took a while to get an engine powerful enough to get the speed and wings strong enough to not snap off the plane. But it was never a physical law.

[Pete]

BTW who is John Galt?

Uh oh. Stand back...

[musicman]

Well, if I can sell enough of MY invention, I'll maybe buy one of those "water cars"....(or maybe they'll trade me straight-up for one..)

[FreedomPoster]

>>Why didn’t somebody tell me that the Second Law of Thermodynamics had been repealed?

You beat me to it.

There are some words of wisdom at the link (requires sound):

http://tinyurl.com/6m5h8q

[Camel Joe]

lmao!

[FreedomPoster]

Don’t miss the link in my previous post.

[Red Badger]

John Galt’s engine?:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2030723/posts?page=1

[NMR Guy]

Not this crap again... :-/

As Slings and Arrows points out, the energy comes from the electrode assembly material, which is used as consumable fuel. Water is not the energy source here. It is thermodynamically impossible to break water into hydrogen and oxygen and then get a net energy gain by reacting the hydrogen with oxygen in the air.

[Camel Joe]

Knowing about the book and having actually read it shows that those who have would have seen the humor in my comment. Those who have not wouldn’t know about the bumper stickers “Who Is John Galt”... It is available on Amazon.com chum... Now where did I put that Reardon Metal thingy???

[Kirkwood]

Someone should find a way to harness the hot air that comes out of Washington.

[Camel Joe]

Don’t get your panties in a bunch sonny I’m only kidding...

[Slings and Arrows]

ROTFLMAO! Ganked for future use.

[Palmetto]

Newton’s Law of Gravity once told us we could not fly, but perhaps not Uhhh...not so much. Newton's Laws are still bound aircraft designers today.

[taxcontrol]

746 watts = 1 horsepower

300W is then .4 Hp
A 300 hp truck would then need 750 of these systems
A 150 hp van / car would need 375 of these systems

That might get a tad expensive.

[Red Badger]

Oh, ye of little faith!..................