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Black conservatives conflicted on Obama campaign
Yahoo! News & Associated Press ^ | June 14, 2008 | FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 06/14/2008 5:59:27 PM PDT by T Lady

WASHINGTON - Black conservative talk show host Armstrong Williams has never voted for a Democrat for president. That could change this year with Barack Obama as the Democratic Party's nominee.

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"I don't necessarily like his policies; I don't like much that he advocates, but for the first time in my life, history thrusts me to really seriously think about it," Williams said. "I can honestly say I have no idea who I'm going to pull that lever for in November. And to me, that's incredible."

Just as Obama has touched black Democratic voters, he has engendered conflicting emotions among black Republicans. They revel over the possibility of a black president but wrestle with the thought that the Illinois senator doesn't sit beside them ideologically.

"Among black conservatives," Williams said, "they tell me privately, it would be very hard to vote against him in November."

Perhaps sensing the possibility of such a shift, Republican presidential candidate John McCain has made some efforts to lure black voters. He recently told Essence magazine that he would attend the NAACP's annual convention next month, and he noted that he recently traveled to Selma, Ala., scene of seminal voting rights protests in the 1960s, and "talked about the need to include 'forgotten Americans.'"

Still, the Arizona senator has a tall order in winning black votes, no doubt made taller by running against a black opponent. In 2004, blacks chose Democrat John Kerry over President Bush by an 88 percent to 11 percent margin, according to exit polls.

J.C. Watts, a former Oklahoma congressman who once was part of the GOP House leadership, said he's thinking of voting for Obama. Watts said he's still a Republican, but he criticizes his party for neglecting the black community. Black Republicans, he said, have to concede that while they might not agree with Democrats on issues, at least that party reaches out to them.

"And Obama highlights that even more," Watts said, adding that he expects Obama to take on issues such as poverty and urban policy. "Republicans often seem indifferent to those things."

Likewise, retired Gen. Colin Powell, who became the country's first black secretary of state under President George W. Bush, said both candidates are qualified and that he will not necessarily vote for the Republican.

"I will vote for the individual I think that brings the best set of tools to the problems of 21st-century America and the 21st-century world regardless of party, regardless of anything else other than the most qualified candidate," Powell said Thursday in Vancouver in comments reported by The Globe and Mail in Toronto.

Writer and actor Joseph C. Phillips got so excited about Obama earlier this year that he started calling himself an "Obamacan" — Obama Republican. Phillips, who appeared on "The Cosby Show" as Denise Huxtable's husband, Navy Lt. Martin Kendall, said he has wavered since, but he is still thinking about voting for Obama.

"I am wondering if this is the time where we get over the hump, where an Obama victory will finally, at long last, move us beyond some of the old conversations about race," Phillips said. "That possibly, just possibly, this great country can finally be forgiven for its original sin, or find some absolution."

Yet Phillips, author of the book "He Talk Like a White Boy," realizes the irony of voting for a candidate based on race to get beyond race.

"We have to not judge him based on his race, but on his desirability as a political candidate," he said. "And based on that, I have a lot of disagreements with him on a lot of issues. I go back and forth."

Michael Steele, the Republican former lieutenant governor of Maryland who lost a Senate race there in 2006, said he is proud of Obama as a black man, but that "come November, I will do everything in my power to defeat him." Electing Obama, he said, would not automatically solve the woes of the black community.

"I think people who try to put this sort of messianic mantle on Barack's nomination are a little bit misguided," he said.

John McWhorter, a self-described political moderate who is a senior fellow at the conservative Manhattan Institute and a New York Sun columnist, said Obama's Democratic Party victory "proves that while there still is some racism in the United States, there is not enough to matter in any serious manner. This is a watershed moment."

"Obama is probably more to the left than I would prefer on a lot of issues," he adds. "But this issue of getting past race for real is such a wedge issue for me. And he is so intelligent, and I think he would be a perfectly competent president, that I'm for him. I want him to get in because, in a way, it will put me out of a job."

James T. Harris, a Milwaukee radio talk show host and public speaker, said he opposes Obama "with love in my heart."

"We are of the same generation. He's African American and I'm an American of African descent. We both have lovely wives and beautiful children," Harris said. "Other than that, we've got nothing in common. I hope he loses every state."

Moderate Republican Edward Brooke, who blazed his own trail in Massachusetts in 1966 as the first black popularly elected U.S. senator, said he is "extremely proud and confident and joyful" to see Obama ascend. Obama sent Brooke a signed copy of his book, inscribed, "Thank you for paving the way," and Brooke sent his own signed book to Obama, calling the presumed Democratic nominee "a worthy bearer of the torch."

Brooke, who now lives in Florida, won't say which candidate will get his endorsement, but he does say that race won't be a factor in his decision.

"This is the most important election in our history," Brooke said. "And with the world in the condition that it is, I think we've got to get the best person we can get."

Williams, the commentator, says his 82-year-old mother, who also hasn't voted for a Democratic presidential candidate, has already made up her mind.

"She is so proud of Senator Barack Obama, and she has made it clear to all of us that she's voting for him in November," Williams relates. "That is historic. Every time I call her, she asks, 'How's Obama doing?' They feel as if they are a part of this. Because she said, given the history of this country, she never thought she'd ever live to see this moment."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allenwest; armstrongwilliams; blackconservatives; blackvote; democratparty; gop; jcwatts; obama; race
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1 posted on 06/14/2008 5:59:28 PM PDT by T Lady
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To: T Lady

They can’t be real conservatives, or they wouldn’t have a problem.


2 posted on 06/14/2008 6:01:00 PM PDT by devere
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To: devere

Even J.C. Watts would betray his party to vote for an empty suit?


4 posted on 06/14/2008 6:02:07 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: T Lady

Is Armstrong Williams that silly? I don’t know him much but I find that hard to believe.


5 posted on 06/14/2008 6:02:48 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: T Lady

Sure seems to be a lot of heavy breathing going on for someone who is just as much white as he is black.


6 posted on 06/14/2008 6:02:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: T Lady

I don’t get what the problem is; are we still dealing with racism? As it matters not to me what Obama’s racial makeup is. But it seems that some are tempted to vote for him, simply because of the color of his skin, or his ethnic background, and for me, that is the most racist action of all.


7 posted on 06/14/2008 6:03:24 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: T Lady
See this link:

Allen West's response to: Black Conservatives Conflicted on Obama Campaign

Allen West is a Black Conservative candidate running for the U.S. House of Representatives from Florida.

8 posted on 06/14/2008 6:03:52 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: T Lady

“He’s African American and I’m an American of African descent.”
At least this guy gets it. Whenever I hear somebody say “African American” it makes my hair hurt and sets my teeth on edge.


9 posted on 06/14/2008 6:05:34 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: T Lady
Previous posts:

Black Conservatives Conflicted on Obama Campaign

Black Conservatives Weigh Voting For Obama (J.C. Watts)
 

 

10 posted on 06/14/2008 6:06:13 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: devere

It’s understandable, given the general view that McCain is not a conservative.


11 posted on 06/14/2008 6:07:12 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Ooh-Ah

Aw, dagnabit! Beat me to the punch :)
(You DID post the thread, afterall...)


12 posted on 06/14/2008 6:07:54 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite)
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To: T Lady

Some conservatives.


13 posted on 06/14/2008 6:08:12 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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"Among black conservatives," Williams said, "they tell me privately, it would be very hard to vote against him in November."

So, McCain will likely lose a cohort of voters who could hold a convention in a telephone booth.

14 posted on 06/14/2008 6:08:55 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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..."Among black conservatives," Williams said, "they tell me privately, it would be very hard to vote against him in November."...

In other words, they're closet racists.

Just confirming what I've seen all my life: blacks are more racist than whites.

15 posted on 06/14/2008 6:09:21 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Me no bottom man. Me top man.)
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To: Brilliant

“It’s understandable, given the general view that McCain is not a conservative.”

I do not agree with you. A real conservative may stay home, or vote for a third party, or skip the top of the ballot, but would never vote for Barack Obama.


16 posted on 06/14/2008 6:10:57 PM PDT by devere
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To: Ooh-Ah
His response says it all.

...If you (no matter your race) believe in, support and defend the United States Constitution, then there shouldn't be any question at all regarding casting (or in this case, not) casting a vote for Barack Obama.

While I too think it is a historic step for a party long mired in racism and sexism, I simply cannot bring myself to vote for someone whose system of values is clearly at odds with that of the country he alleges he wants to represent.

17 posted on 06/14/2008 6:11:55 PM PDT by T Lady (The Mainstream Media: Public Enemy #1)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

Better question, would J.C. Watts betray his faith to vote for someone who supports abortion as vehemently as Obama?


18 posted on 06/14/2008 6:12:21 PM PDT by Hoodat (Obama's only connection to the descendants of American Slaves is that his muslim ancestors sold them)
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To: T Lady
I think the argument they need to consider if they're conflicted about voting against BHO is ... imagine what will be destroyed during his Marxist administration, it would be worse than if Hillary gained power and that's saying something! The WRONG person elevated simply because s/he's in an affinity group can be devastating, ensuring that the public doesn't dare make the same mistake for another generation.

IOW, close your eyes and think about an Obama administration if he were white. What would happen. Would it be good for the country. Would there be a huge backlash. Then with that picture clear in your mind, ask if his being Black makes accepting that outcome any more palatable. Then answer has to be a resounding NO.

Judge Obama by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin.

19 posted on 06/14/2008 6:13:23 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (I tried to explain that I meant it as a compliment, but that only appears to have made things worse.)
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To: Brilliant
It’s understandable, given the general view that McCain is not a conservative.

My take too.

20 posted on 06/14/2008 6:13:24 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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