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To: EagleUSA

As a Conservative black woman, I too feel this conflict. I am excited at the prospect of Obama getting this far and that our country has progressed enough for him to be a serious contender. On the other hand, I disagree with just about all of his political platform. So as a black conservative, that puts me in a quandary when I would like to support him but cannot if I really stick to my beliefs. God BLess America!


11 posted on 06/19/2008 8:37:52 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: brwnsuga

If you disagree with “...with just about all of his political platform” how can you feel conflicted?

I wouldn’t vote for my own father or mother if they ran on a ticket I disagreed with.


16 posted on 06/19/2008 8:43:35 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: brwnsuga
I think there are many here who would support a black candidate and we've heard some good conservative arguments from Walter Williams and Alan Keyes and other black conservatives.

While it would be “landmark” to elect a black man as president, would it help or hurt the cause of black politicians to be associated with a man that many see as Jimmy Carter II? Would the failings of his administration be used to paint all black politicians?

How is Barack Obama on discussions of race? He's pulling scabs off of old wounds and using some dangerous rhetoric. Doesn't sound like he will bring any kind of unity (national, not ethnic) on this issue.

His own books contain passages of his own racism. He slurred a black friend of his who entered a relationship with a white woman (just like his own parents did).

It seems to me that he has a lot of psychological issues about his own family. He needs counseling, not the presidency.

19 posted on 06/19/2008 8:46:19 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: brwnsuga

Hmmmmm....wonder how much German and English and Scottish John McCain has in him.....maybe I should consider that????


37 posted on 06/19/2008 9:06:09 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Obama will bring us......CommieLot)
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To: brwnsuga; All

When you vote for someone who is against everything that you believe in, just because he happens to be the same skin color as you, how is that NOT racist? How is that not surrendering your principles?

The whole conversation we’re having here proves that we’ve not “moved beyond race”... Some of us have (I would venture that most of Middle America has), but the Democrat Party is one giant racist pimp organization that PREVENTS the country from moving beyond race, and, following their Marxist doctrine, keeps fomenting conflict being groups. so there is a constant state of low-level racial animosity at any given time that can reach a boiling point. It helps THEM, NOT the country.

Be an American first; decide what is better for a country that your children will inherit. You want them living under socialism/communism? You want them to have NO chance of succeeding exceot what some government bureacrat deems for them? Is that how you were raised? I think not.

This isn’t about US - it’s about our kids’ futures. We fought National Socialists (Nazis), International Socialists (Communists), and other forms of liberal facism for years; do we want to let them win now, HERE of all places, after so much American blood and lives have been expended? Those dead men were AMERICAN CITIZENS like you and me; they had hopes, dreams, loves, and lives that they gave up so that the enemy they fought would NEVER be able to do here what they did in Europe and Asia.

And now here we are, watching one of the enemy climb his way to the top over all those bodies, grinning and fooling all in his path.

We are Americans FIRST, or we are NOTHING at all, and all those fine, brave men have died in vain. I don’t consider myself a “White American” or a “European American” - that’s the language of the enemy. I’m not voting for McCain because he’s white, I’m voting for him because he’s the better AMERICAN candidate who I hope will take this country in the right direction - AWAY from liberal socialism. He’s not my first choice, but he is the ONLY choice right now.

I am an AMERICAN FIRST, always and foremost.

I’ll not be part of that. Socialists can go ANYWHERE else on earth and have their little Utopia Workers’ Paradise.

This is OUR country. They need to know that it won’t be given up without a fight.


43 posted on 06/19/2008 9:21:20 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: brwnsuga
Obama may be the first but he will not be the last, nor the best. Would the wise maiden choose the first suitor to come along, or defer in waiting for one suitable?

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:" -- Ecclesiastes 3:1

56 posted on 06/19/2008 9:51:32 AM PDT by Uncle Ralph ("... a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing...")
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To: brwnsuga
As a Conservative black woman, I too feel this conflict. I am excited at the prospect of Obama getting this far and that our country has progressed enough for him to be a serious contender.

I don't know why people have a hard time understanding this. My family is old time Irish Catholic and they all went in spasms of joy when John Kennedy was elected.

I'm a middle aged white guy and even I'm impressed that a black man is finally a serious contender for the White House...I just wish it was Michael Steele.

60 posted on 06/19/2008 10:02:34 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: brwnsuga
As a Conservative black woman, I too feel this conflict. I am excited at the prospect of Obama getting this far and that our country has progressed enough for him to be a serious contender. On the other hand, I disagree with just about all of his political platform. So as a black conservative, that puts me in a quandary when I would like to support him but cannot if I really stick to my beliefs. God BLess America!

Interesting. Makes me wonder if there were conservative women who were ready to pull the lever for Hillary using that same thought process.

I think I understand a bit why you feel that way, though. Everyone can deny it till they're blue in the face, but there is still an undertone that exists in this country (just look at this forum... jeez.). If only there were some significant event that would erase everything in an instant... unfortunately, that rarely happens, and patience can be a bitch.

I don't know if that makes sense at all. I'm trying to put words to an abstract and I'm out of practice somewhat. ;-)

66 posted on 06/19/2008 10:22:20 AM PDT by dbwz
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To: brwnsuga

Vote on your principles. This is a tough election as I believe that either candidate will be a disaster, and I’ve thought of voting for Obama so democrats get the blame. However, voting for Obama only for racial issues will be very counter-productive. If/when the country goes very very south, alot of people will link his skin color to be the cause of the coming storm...It may make it difficult for a legitimate black conservative in the future. The country tanking with the first 6.5% black president at the wheel, may set back race relations for some time to come.


68 posted on 06/19/2008 10:36:00 AM PDT by dsrtsage (John Galt, Dagney Taggart..2008)
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