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US Commodities: Gold Climbs, Moves Over $900/Oz; Grains Slide
istockanalyst ^ | 06/19/08

Posted on 06/20/2008 2:14:14 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

US Commodities: Gold Climbs, Moves Over $900/Oz; Grains Slide

By: iStockAnalyst Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:39 PM

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Gold futures climbed and moved above $900 an ounce Thursday, as rising prices have brought in more buyers thinking gold prices will continue to increase.

August gold rose $10.70 to settle at $904.20 a troy ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commodities; gold; grains; inflation; oil

1 posted on 06/20/2008 2:14:14 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; 2banana; Travis McGee; OwenKellogg; 31R1O; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/20/2008 2:15:14 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Here’s a little piece by Richard Daughty, known as “The Mogambo Guru”:
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I was in the middle of one of my better bitter rants about the despicable Federal Reserve creating too much money and credit, and the equally despicable Congress that lets them do it, and I was really cooking about how only the biggest idiots in world history are not buying gold and silver in response to such profligacy, and how I support legislation that would require adults who do not own gold and silver to have their foreheads tattooed with the words “Me stupid” so that everyone would know who they were, and I would not have to waste my Precious Mogambo Time (PMT) trying to educate them as we wait in line to get our stupid driver’s licenses renewed.

This prompted a lot of discussion (”Kill that Vicious Mogambo Bastard (VMB)!), and in the tussle I lost my place in line and wound up at the end of the line, which made me angry, and none of them said that they were persuaded to use their renewed licenses to drive out and get some gold and silver, which made me so angry that I peed in my pants.

After that embarrassment, you can imagine my jealousy and envy that Dominic Frisby in Moneyweek.com sums it up in just a few sentences, and in terms that the average person can understand: greed.

He writes, “In the long-term it does not matter what central bankers say. What matters is what they have done. Gold and oil are going to go a lot higher. But how high? I’ll tell you. Perhaps $8,500 for gold and $400 for oil.”

The more quizzical of us might ask, “Why?”, and as if to anticipate the question, he writes, “Here’s why; central bankers can’t talk down inflation”, which is timely, in that both the USA and the EU are making noises about how inflation is too high, and how they are going to get up off of their fat, stupid butts one of these days after it is too late to do anything about it.

What will they do? Hahaha! They will, reluctantly, raise interest rates a teensy-weensy bit and try, try, desperately try to cool off the raging inflation that is the result of decades of monetary over-issuance. It won’t, obviously, work, and in fact, raising interest rates makes prices rise in the short run as it increases the costs of all the financing that is done, up and down the line!

Perhaps the fact that nothing can be done explains their inaction, because if something could be done, somebody would have thought of it in the last 3,000 years of idiotic governments destroying themselves with creating too much money and credit. Nobody ever has. Nobody ever will.

That, for me, explains why, as Mr. Frisby says, “Despite all the rhetoric, nobody has actually done anything yet.”

In the meantime, he observes me bellowing that people are ignorant, raving lunatics about money and inflation, which perhaps explains why he asks “Why, oh why would anyone buy a bond or a gilt? You might get yields of 3%, 4% or 5%, but the cost of living is patently rising by so much more than that. Virtually guaranteed to lose purchasing power, it just doesn’t make any sense.”

From that, he concludes, “The bubble, if it’s anywhere, is in bonds and they, in my humble opinion, will be the next one to pop.”

And it will probably be because the banks went bust, as they are the ones who create all the money to buy bonds, driving their prices to these lofty heights and interest rates to these laughable lows. And that time may no be far off, as I conclude from Junior Mogambo Ranger (JMR) Stephen D., who looked at the latest release of the FDIC Quarterly Banking Profile report, and was stunned to see that in the fourth quarter of 2007, banks had reported $5.8 billion in income, while restatements caused fourth-quarter net income to decline to a lousy $646 million.

JMR Stephen says, “Note what the FDIC is saying here. The banking industry reported $5.8 billion in earnings to its investors, but restatements took that total down by 89%.”

I guess that Agora Financial’s 5-Minute Forecast hears us talking about the banks, and chimes in with “The combined profits of all FDIC-insured banks plunged 46% in the first quarter. Banks in the U.S. made $14 billion less last quarter than they did the year before.”

So no matter how bad your life is, it could be worse; you could be a bank! Stupid, greedy and broke! Hahahaha!


3 posted on 06/20/2008 2:24:07 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: jsh3180

The gold bubble too will burst. The big guys will sell it to the little guys and the little guys will lose their shirts. The big guys drive the prices and they talk to each other.


4 posted on 06/20/2008 2:50:20 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, educate, then opinionate.)
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To: Soliton

Yeah, but when they sell what are they buying with their dollars? I thought the whole point of owning gold was, well, owning gold instead of something else by definition.
Otherwise it’s just currency speculation.


5 posted on 06/20/2008 4:47:49 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US
Otherwise it’s just currency speculation.

So? why do voluntary transactions that other people engage in bother you so much?

6 posted on 06/20/2008 4:48:47 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: jsh3180
Richard Daughty has a pretty clear view on how weak the economy really is from his essays. Basically, it appears that the inflation we are experiencing now is a direct result of ignorance at the Feds and Congress mandating a sub-prime / mortgage / banking / CDO orgy with Greenspan's 'derivatives economy' concept. True, trillions have been lost already, however, there's a few hundred billion setting in the offshore accounts of select few.

The terror of it all is many investment bank CEO's, CFO's, senior Vp's, etc. have been fired after running their companies into the ground and collected hundreds of millions in bonuses during the artificial run up. Now, they are taking jobs for lower salaries as hedge fund managers.

And the vicious greedy shell game continues.

7 posted on 06/20/2008 5:25:15 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I hadn’t been watching for a while. Gold has been below $900? I thought it was supposed to be at $2000 by now?


8 posted on 06/20/2008 6:50:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks for the ping.


9 posted on 06/20/2008 6:55:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (ANWR's a third the size of the UK-The drilling site is 1/7 the size of Manhattan Island-Krauthammer)
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To: Freedom4US
Yeah, but when they sell what are they buying with their dollars?

It depends on where the herd is moving. It was dot com stocks, then it was the stock market, then it was dollars, then it was real estate, then it was oil and commodities. This most recent uptick is money coming out of oil and commodities and parked in gold. The stock market has been deflated, the little guys' 401ks depleted, now it's time to sell our gold and move back into a value priced stock market.

10 posted on 06/20/2008 8:11:13 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, educate, then opinionate.)
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To: Soliton
The gold bubble too will burst.

It has to happen, first. The real price rise in precious metals hasn't even started yet.

11 posted on 06/20/2008 8:15:11 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
It has to happen, first. The real price rise in precious metals hasn't even started yet.

The dollar would have to drop. Can it go any lower against the euro?

12 posted on 06/20/2008 8:20:51 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, educate, then opinionate.)
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To: Soliton
The dollar would have to drop. Can it go any lower against the euro?

Currencies don't float - they just sink at different rates. All of them will go down against gold at varying speeds over the next few years.

13 posted on 06/20/2008 10:15:34 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Buy gold!

Hasn’t been much interest in gold since it backed off from something over 1000. Just the usual Bircher stuff.


14 posted on 06/20/2008 10:17:43 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Currencies don't float - they just sink at different rates. All of them will go down against gold at varying speeds over the next few years.

That's cute. you must have a lot of gold to unload.

15 posted on 06/20/2008 10:53:25 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, educate, then opinionate.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

No. Don’t misunderstand me - when people say they are “investing” in gold, I cringe, because holding gold isn’t really an investment. Certainly, not in the short term.


16 posted on 06/20/2008 3:17:39 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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