Posted on 06/23/2008 7:57:18 PM PDT by kingattax
Dobson lost me right about here:
“The boy’s father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son’s maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.”
Ummm, I don’t think so, Dr. Jimmy.
This is just precious. It's the typical liberal tactic of responding to the statement that was NEVER made. When people would say America is a christian nation that does not mean that America is "just" a christian nation. It simply means that America is predominately a christian nation (using the traditional definition of a christian nation).
Isn’t this the same guy that said Fred Thompson wasn’t a Christian?
Isn’t this the same guy that said Fred Thompson wasn’t a Christian?
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That’s what the man said. He was pretty harsh about it, too.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1272/956556568_38cc38e428.jpg?v=0
Dubois is the one standing...
Joshua Dubois, Sen. Obama’s director of religious affairs, is guarded in discussing his personal positions. The stepson of an African Methodist Episcopal minister, he did not offer his view of abortion during a WORLD interview.
DuBois, who maintains membership at a United Pentecostal Council Assemblies of God church in Cambridge, Mass.
Tapping DuBois to manage the faith outreach of his prospective campaign fits well with the Illinois senator’s consistent efforts to project an evangelical image.
DuBois admits that Obama’s outspoken faith only appears novel in light of Democrats’ recent deference to the party’s avowed secularists. In reality, Obama’s brand of religiosity amounts to a social gospel, emphasizing the humanitarian example of Jesus over the way His death and resurrection solves humanity’s sin problem. “The progressive movement in the early part of the last century was infused with Christian values and people of faith—same with the civil-rights movement,” DuBois said. “So this isn’t a new thing, but it’s a good thing that it’s happening now.”
“Some folks on the left are uncomfortable with these topics,” DuBois said.
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DuBois noted, it was during this time that Obama changed his personal faith and began his long association with his church, Trinity United Church of Christ.
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Mark DeMoss, a spokesman for the Rev. Franklin Graham, said Graham attended and asked Obama whether “he thought Jesus was the way to God, or merely a way.” DeMoss declined to discuss Obama’s response.
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October 23, 2007
Obama is touring with a singer who hates gay people. Obama’s religious affairs director, Joshua DuBois, has responded to the criticism.
Singers on the tour include Donnie McClurkin, who has crusaded against homosexuality and who says he is a former homosexual. For information on his book Eternal Victim/Eternal Victor, in which he describes his “bout” with homosexuality
In a statement on his website, Obama said he disagrees with McClurkin’s views on homosexuality, but he did not cancel the appearance.
Among those asking Obama to cancel the event was Wayne Besen, executive director of the gay advocacy group Truth Wins Out. “Obama’s statement was inadequate and we are disappointed that he failed to sever ties with Donnie McClurkin,” Besen said today on the group’s website.
Joshua DuBois, the campaign’s religious affairs director, said in announcing it: “This is another example of how Barack Obama is defying conventional wisdom about how politics is done and giving new meaning to meeting people at the grassroots level. This concert tour is going to bring new people into the political process and engage people of faith in an unprecedented way.”
Joshua DuBois, Office of U.S. Senator Barack Obama, 202-228-6144
NCC News: Dan Webster, 212-870-2258, dwebster@councilofchurches.org
Associated with the National Council of Churches who hired Greg Craig as the attorney who help to send Elian Gonzales back to Castro’s Cuba.
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“We are writing to deplore this despicable tactic,” said the Rev. Bob Edgar, general secretary of the National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA, and eight other leaders. “We have had enough of the slash and burn politics calculated to divide us as children of God,” said the leaders today in an open letter to the religious community.
“I’ve been saying for awhile now that we must not let fear, fundamentalism and Fox News set our nation’s agenda,” said NCC’s Edgar separately. “Now it appears Fox News is using a political candidate to further foment a fear of fundamentalism in hopes of dividing Americans and pitting people of faith against one another. Faithful Americans must stand up and say no to such sinful behavior,” Edgar said.
Dr. Robert W. Edgar
General Secretary
National Council of Churches USA
Joshua DuBois was a grad student at Princeton’s Woodrow Wilson School when Obama delivered his convention speech. DuBois, who had become an associate pastor at a small evangelical church while still an undergrad at Boston University, says he was “enthralled” by Obama’s references to faith. “I had been struggling with an internal conflict: what does God want me to do?” he says. He sent a letter to Obama asking for a job—and got a rejection form letter back. So DuBois drove to Washington, walked up to the front desk at Obama’s Senate office and dropped off his résumé in person. Two months later he was hired and eventually became Obama’s director of faith outreach.
DuBois, who is 25, now has the lofty title of national director of religious affairs for the Obama campaign. Real-world translation: he works 20-hour days trying to persuade priests, pastors, rabbis and clerics to endorse his boss—and, more important, to spread the word to their flocks. DuBois, who is tethered to a BlackBerry that is never not ringing—”Hiya, Father, I had a quick question for you …”—commands a team of six full-time religious outreach staffers and hundreds of volunteers and surrogates around the country. There’s no way to tell if DuBois’s efforts are having much of an effect on the way people vote—or on their perceptions of Obama.
I believe Dobson’s right about this one. Obama is twisting scripture for his own purposes and to suit his beliefs. He is pulling the wool over the eyes of many Christians.
However, Dobson may have overplayed his hand. I was very disappointed when he made a big deal saying Fred Thompson is “not a Christian”. He has reacted hysterically too many times to really have the kind of impact he used to have. I respect the man, but wish he would be more selective in his outrage.
Obama’s speech in which he says that he will be attacked because he is young, inexperienced, has a funny name and oh yes - that he is black shows us that he indeed is a disciple of Jeremiah Wright.
Obama was unable to give a positive message to a largely black audience (that was supposedly off the record) and therefore, like Wright only gave the hearers a sense of distrust, fear and hopelessness.
He is speaking as a private citizen. He does have that right, you know.
speaking of fruitcakes.
OH ME......SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.....WE CANNOT USE THE NAME OF JESUS OR GOD IN PUBLIC, because the Communist Menifesto says it is WRONG....WRONG...WRONG. Of course the communists, like the nazis do not believe in God or Jesus. They believe in Man...So our government fell right in line with the communists and told us that it is wrong to pray in public, cannot have a Bible in the workplance, cannot have bible study in the workplace or public schools, but can have rooms set aside for 3 or 4 prayer times for muslims prayertime, show any belief in God and Jesus, but preach mohammad was something or another and because there are those in this country who belive in NOTHING, except man. The Believer in God and Jesus have been muffled....though there are more of us than them, we stay muffled. AND what has Man done????? He has reproduced in God’s Image. So, what are we going to do with these professors of non-belief, even men like Dobson, who speak a lot, but do nothing to gather together strong God Fearing Christians and Jews to rebut the non-believers. We did have one Man, one time, Rev. Fallwell, who ran for our highest office, on Jesus’ coattails. He lost, but did gather a lot of christians together. I wish we had someone like that now.
Although I don’t agree with one man saying who is or is not a Christian you can’t say he’s playing politics. If I remember correctly he praised Newt as a Christian when he denounced Thompson. Any idea if McCain is worthy in his eyes?
The Kennedy factor will only serve to remind Catholics that Obama, while he speaks inspiringly about faith, is another pro-abortion Democrat — a fact that Obama himself, surprisingly, continues to underscore.
Obama’s appeal to religious voters, especially Catholics, will be limited by the content of his own convictions. Voters who earnestly practice their religion are primarily concerned about the hostility of government and culture to their families. No matter how inspired the call to relieve poverty, it will not trump the ongoing concern of religious voters about raising their children and grandchildren.
I believe he said he would not vote for McCain.
"Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances," said James Dobson, founder of the Colorado Springs-based Focus on the Family "
Maybe he supports Barr.
advice to Obama: Pray quietly and shut up
Meanwhile, the MSM ignored it, totally, and focused instead on "theoretical" conservative racism, which they hatched in their own dim minds with absolutely no facts or words to back it up, supposedly coming from all American citizens that refuse to vote for a marxist. It's a swell communist MSM we have in this nation.
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