Posted on 07/03/2008 1:00:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The list of people Sen. Barack Obama probably wishes were passive, rather than active, supporters of his bid for the presidency is growing. Already on the list are the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and the Rev. Michael Pfleger. Obama may be ready to add retired Gen. Wesley Clark.
Clark, not a stranger to foot-in-mouth disease, on Sunday took a shot at Sen. John McCain's fitness to be president. Stressing that he views McCain as a hero, Clark said of the Republican candidate for president, "Well, I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification for president."
He explained that he believes McCain "hasn't held executive responsibility" of the type needed to be president.
McCain's history as a war hero - his plane was shot down during the Vietnam War and he behaved courageously and as a leader during years as a prisoner of war - may not be the type of experience necessary to be president. But former presidents have agreed on one thing regarding their own experiences: Nothing could have prepared them fully for the awesome responsibilities of the Oval Office.
But Clark brought up the subject, so let's pause to consider it:
McCain, in addition to his leadership in the military, has served as a U.S. senator since 1986. During more than a generation of service in the Senate he has had to deal with a variety of complex issues regarding both domestic and international affairs. He is the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Obama, the Democrat candidate for president, served in the Illinois legislature. He took office as a U.S. senator in 2005. He is a freshman lawmaker who serves on several committees - but has contributed little because of his inexperience.
By Clark's measuring stick, then, is Obama - who never served in the military and has less than one term under his belt as a senator - qualified to be president? Is the man who didn't graduate from college until three years before McCain became a senator more experienced?
Clearly, the answer to both questions is no. It is an issue that Obama may wish Clark had never brought up.
Conservative Americans qualified more than McCain or Obama.
that’s obvious.
Riding!!!! in a jet???? Must have been one hell of an autopilot.
Sorry, your boy Ron Paul ain’t the GOP nominee...
Either Senator John Sidney McCain or Barack Hussein Obama will be the next president. Choose one...
REPORTER 1: Jane, who are you voting for?
REPORTER 2: Who gets your vote?
FONDA: Obama.
REPORTER 2: Oh, my God. Heaven help us all.
RUSH: The reporter for TMZ said, "Oh, God. Heaven help us all." Obviously the reporter is an Obama supporter.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_040308/content/01125111.guest.html
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November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
Fonda made the following statement at the University of Texas:
"We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses. Whether the transition is peaceful depends on the way our present governmental leaders react. We must commit our lives to this transition ...... We should be very proud of our new breed of soldier. It's not organized but it's mutiny, and they have every right." --Karen Elliott Dallas Morning News December 11, 1971
From 1972: "I am not a do-gooder, I am a revolutionary. A revolutionary woman."
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
Source for most of the Jane Fonda material:
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
And in other news, water is weter than dry sand...
More qualified to do what? Janitor? Dog catcher? Waiter? Postman? or?
From Michael Moore's website, September 12th, 2003:
Michael Moore to Wesley Clark: Run!
A Citizen's Appeal to a General in a Time of War (at Home)
Dear General Wesley Clark,
I've been meaning to write to you for some time. Two days after the Oscars, when I felt very alone and somewhat frightened by the level of hatred toward me for daring to suggest that we were being led into war for "fictitious reasons," one person stuck his neck out and came to my defense on national television.
And that person was you.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2003-09-12
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From Moore's website, January 14th, 2004:
I'll Be Voting For Wesley Clark / Good-Bye Mr. Bush
Many of you have written to me in the past months asking, 'Who are you going to vote for this year?'
I have decided to cast my vote in the primary for Wesley Clark. That's right, a peacenik is voting for a general. What a country!
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-01-14
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Michael Moore quote, also from his website...
The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?
[actual quote from Michael Moore (2004). It still appears on his website]
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14
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This one has been up for years, although I doubt if it's actually Michael Moore saying it...
The Communist Party USA (CPUSA):
"We are a party of unity in action. We are an integral part of every struggle and movement for change to eliminate poverty and joblessness, against racism and for full equality. We are participants, initiators and leaders of every movement to make life better now and much better in a socialist future." Yeah, so they supported an oppressive dictator, like the Repubs and Democrats haven't? The CP is still around, has apologized for that whole Stalin thing, and has a quickly growing youth section.
[see: MichaelMoore.com-->Links-->PoliticalAction (bottom of the page--CPUSA promo)]
http://www.michaelmoore.com/links/index.php?linkType=Political%20Action
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From the Revolutionary Communist Party website
A Viewer's Guide to Fahrenheit 911
Revolutionary Worker #1246, July 18, 2004, posted at http://rwor.org
"People have been lied to. And many can see it. Invasion, occupation, police spying, round-ups, even torture camps--plus far-reaching changes in law, treaty and doctrine --they have all come wrapped in deceit. The President lies. His whole clique lies."
http://rwor.org/a/1246/fahrenheit_911_guide.htm
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Monday, April 21st, 2008
My Vote's for Obama (if I could vote) ...by Michael Moore
Friends,
I don't get to vote for President this primary season. I live in Michigan. The party leaders (both here and in D.C.) couldn't get their act together, and thus our votes will not be counted.
So, if you live in Pennsylvania, can you do me a favor? Will you please cast my vote -- and yours -- on Tuesday for Senator Barack Obama?
I wanted to make an art piece of Barack Obama because I thought an iconic portrait of him could symbolize and amplify the importance of his mission. I believe Obama will guide this country to a future where everyone can thrive and I should support him vigorously for the sake of my two young daughters. I have made art opposing the Iraq war for several years, and making art of Obama, who opposed the war from the start, is like making art for peace. I know I have an audience of young art fans and Im delighted if I can encourage them to see the merits of Barack Obama.
-Shepard Fairey
http://store.barackobama.com/product_p/po26951.htm
See, it's all about "peace, love, togetherness" and "change". Here are some of Fairey's other masterpieces. Most of his works are along these same lines...
Who did you support in the primaries?
Yes I realize that. I knew he wouldn’t be.
I didn’t. I started getting really involved after the primaries. I like aspects of Hunter, Paul, and Tancredo mostly. None ever really had a chance.
Of course he is. Only idiots think otherwise.
I’m expressing dissatisfaction with our candidate. I realize actually being president takes years of leadership and being in decision making positions that most Americans never have. To an extent I’m sure it requires some knowing of “the game” in Washington.
IOW, since you WILL be eating poo this year, do you want it smooth and creamy or in hard nuggets?
We’re on the same page, I’ve noticed several new “members” of the Forum who all joined within the last month, just like this guy. When I joined 4 years ago I rarely ever posted, but all these new “members” are very active which makes me highly suspicious. Also, I read something about 2 - 3 weeks ago stating the Obambi team was sicking some of their brainwashed internet geeks on conseravtive sites and directing them to pretend to be one of us with the goal of depressing our motivation and willingness to support McCain/Repubs this year. Well, it’s not going to work, all you trolls can kiss my a$$. jrooney, I hope you and your’s have a happy and safe 4th of July weekend.
Amen my friend. May you and yours have a great and safe 4th of July. Let us remember our freedoms this weekend and those who gave them to us, those brave souls that have fought and do fight for this country. May we also remember those this weekend that will take away our freedoms many have died for, aka Barack Hussein Obama, the false prophet.
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