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To: mbarker12474
How many times in history has this been done?

Very, very few. That's part of the problem, actually. Many (not all) Dems are ideologues for whom the narrative is everything, that is, a more or less coherent story with themselves as the heroes and their political opposition as the villains. The Vietnam narrative (and not the actual events) was irresistibly attractive to them for this reason, which was why so many clung to it desperately and still do.

This isn't that, and it turns out that an attractive narrative is indispensable during an election year, so the choice is between clinging to the old story line and furiously denying evidence to the contrary or coming up with a new storyline, i.e. the war was won because of some Democratic policy or other. The problem with the latter is that Obama has already chosen to cast himself as the fellow who was against the war from the beginning, and his claiming credit for the victory is a stretch even the NY Times might find hard to swallow. Not to mention She Who Must Not Be Named lurking in the background with an "I told you so" smirk on her face.

Victory will be recognized as soon as it becomes advantageous for the ideologues in control of the media and the Democratic party to do so, and not until then. It may be grudgingly admitted to before that, which is what is happening now. Very grudgingly indeed, at least until that new narrative can be constructed.

15 posted on 07/17/2008 1:23:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Outstanding analysis (again)! Thanks. BUMP-TO-THE-TRUTH!


18 posted on 07/17/2008 1:45:32 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Billthedrill
This is going to get interesting...Will Obama declare Victory ...over there...?

I think the Dems have a problem....

19 posted on 07/17/2008 1:48:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Billthedrill
The story of the LONG TERM victory, which won't be written for some time, is going to raise Bush right back up to the top ranks of presidents. For ex., consider that 500 tons of yellowcake. Ok, old stuff, right? So why did we keep it secret? Because we didn't want the terrorists to know where to get it till we had completely removed it.

Now, consider WMDs. Were they really "not there?" Or did we find them all along and have been quietly moving them and destroying them? I even wonder if the "anthrax" killer wasn't found, and had leads to other people that we are keeping quiet so we can get them. This country has been so damn safe given what we faced in 2001, the actual story has to be beyond our imagination.

26 posted on 07/17/2008 2:24:02 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Billthedrill

Your post reminds me of something.

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/#quotes

Just as the Iraqi Information Minister insisted that “there are no Americans in Bagdad”,
The pabaracksee media (pronounced like “paparazzi”) will today insist that “there is no American victory in Baghdad”.

Such traitors they are.


39 posted on 07/18/2008 8:37:46 PM PDT by H.Akston (It's all about property rights.)
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