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Cablers Cover Rejected McCain Op-Ed (Cable News Outlets cover NY Times rejection ) Videos
TVNEWSER ^ | Monday, Jul 21 | SteveK

Posted on 07/21/2008 11:00:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

One of the big topics of the day on the cable news channels is Drudge Report's story about the New York Times rejecting Sen. John McCain's proposed Op-Ed about Iraq. Fox News has Carl Cameron reporting the story, MSNBC's Chris Matthews talked about it on Hardball and Howard Kurtz gave his take last hour on CNN: "One irony of the internet age: the rejected piece will probably wind up getting far more attention by the controversy whipped up by Matt Drudge then if the New York Times had just gone ahead and published it," said Kurtz.

We hear prime time programs are gearing up for more on the story, with Hannity & Colmes, Larry King Live (with Glenn Beck filling in), Campbell Brown: Election Center and Anderson Cooper 360 set to cover it.

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Click continued to see Kurtz' report from The Situation Room today...

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqsurge; mccain; mediabias; msm; nyt; nytimes; obama; propagandawingofdnc; rebuttal
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1 posted on 07/21/2008 11:00:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Well,...one video...Check the Drudge Report also...


2 posted on 07/21/2008 11:03:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We have another presidential candidate besides Obama?

Why didn’t someone tell me this?


3 posted on 07/21/2008 11:07:59 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Related thread:

The Times and the McCain Op-Ed [the NYT responds]

4 posted on 07/21/2008 11:08:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The NYTimes never seems to get tired of making fools of themselves. At first, I was angry at them for their lame excuses for not publishing McCain’s opinion, but now I’m having a good chuckle as the rest of the media are circling like hungry sharks smelling blood in the water.


5 posted on 07/21/2008 11:09:43 PM PDT by smedley64 (Dems go all-in every 4 years with a 7-2 offsuit marxist, hoping to hit the flop big just one time.)
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To: Raycpa; smedley64

Google News is not showing a thing on all of this....hmmmm!


6 posted on 07/21/2008 11:20:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...

fyi


7 posted on 07/21/2008 11:22:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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Hot Air has info:

Drudge: NYT rejects McCain’s rebuttal op-ed because it doesn’t “mirror” Obama’s; Update: Text of NYT e-mail added

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posted at 1:03 pm on July 21, 2008 by Allahpundit

Which god did he please to get the Times to do him this favor, I wonder. Remember when they endorsed him in January and he very stupidly touted it on his website, only to quietly drop it when he realized the Republican base doesn’t consider the NYT’s imprimatur a badge of honor? This is the antithesis. You’re a real conservative at last, Maverick!

An editorial written by Republican presidential hopeful McCain has been rejected by the NEW YORK TIMES — less than a week after the paper published an essay written by Obama, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The paper’s decision to refuse McCain’s direct rebuttal to Obama’s ‘My Plan for Iraq’ has ignited explosive charges of media bias in top Republican circles…

[Former Clinton aide and current NYT op-ed editor David] Shipley, who is on vacation this week, explained his decision not to run the editorial [in an e-mail to McCain’s staff on Friday].

‘The Obama piece worked for me because it offered new information (it appeared before his speech); while Senator Obama discussed Senator McCain, he also went into detail about his own plans.’

Shipley continues: ‘It would be terrific to have an article from Senator McCain that mirrors Senator Obama’s piece. To that end, the article would have to articulate, in concrete terms, how Senator McCain defines victory in Iraq.’

Drudge has the text of the rejected draft. The punchline? It’s true, the piece is short on specifics (and long on rubbing the left’s face in their misjudgment of the surge) — but then so was Obama’s op-ed, never delving beyond the Iraq/Afghanistan boilerplate he’s been pushing for the last year except insofar as he revealed the number of brigades to be redeployed. As for McCain’s non-definition of victory, quote:

Senator Obama is also misleading on the Iraqi military’s readiness. The Iraqi Army will be equipped and trained by the middle of next year, but this does not, as Senator Obama suggests, mean that they will then be ready to secure their country without a good deal of help. The Iraqi Air Force, for one, still lags behind, and no modern army can operate without air cover. The Iraqis are also still learning how to conduct planning, logistics, command and control, communications, and other complicated functions needed to support frontline troops.

No one favors a permanent U.S. presence, as Senator Obama charges. A partial withdrawal has already occurred with the departure of five “surge” brigades, and more withdrawals can take place as the security situation improves. As we draw down in Iraq, we can beef up our presence on other battlefields, such as Afghanistan, without fear of leaving a failed state behind. I have said that I expect to welcome home most of our troops from Iraq by the end of my first term in office, in 2013.

Vague, but then so was Obama’s caveat in his op-ed about “tactical readjustments” to his timetable based on conditions on the ground. What exactly are they looking for by way of specifics? “We’ll go home when Sadr’s dead”? The more capable the IA is in defending its turf, the more American troops can be redeployed. I don’t know what they want beyond that. But if that’s not good enough, how about this for a compromise: McCain will offer a precise, legalistic definition of victory in return for Obama offering a precise, legalistic definition of defeat. Are we already there? If so, say so, because that sure would put Obama’s supposed meeting of the minds with Maliki in stark, stark context.

And to think, 49% believe the media’s trying to help Obama win. Exit question: Since when does Drudge do favors for McCain? Or was a hot story bashing the Times simply too much for him to resist, whatever the political fallout might be?

Update: Here’s the full text of Shipley’s e-mail:

From: David Shipley/NYT/NYTIMES [mailto:XXXXXXX]
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:31 PM
To: XXXXXXX
Cc: XXXXXXX
Subject: Re: JSM Op-Ed

Dear Mr. XXXXXX,

Thank you for sending me Senator McCain’s essay.

I’d be very eager to publish the Senator on the Op-Ed page.

However, I’m not going to be able to accept this piece as currently written.

I’d be pleased, though, to look at another draft.

Let me suggest an approach.

The Obama piece worked for me because it offered new information (it appeared before his speech); while Senator Obama discussed Senator McCain, he also went into detail about his own plans.

It would be terrific to have an article from Senator McCain that mirrors Senator Obama’s piece. To that end, the article would have to articulate, in concrete terms, how Senator McCain defines victory in Iraq. It would also have to lay out a clear plan for achieving victory — with troops levels, timetables and measures for compelling the Iraqis to cooperate. And
it would need to describe the Senator’s Afghanistan strategy, spelling out how it meshes with his Iraq plan.

I am going to be out of the office next week. If you decide to re-work the draft, please be in touch with Mary Duenwald, the Op-Ed deputy. Her email is XXXXXXXX; her phone is 212-XXXXXXX.

Again, thank you for taking the time to send me the Senator’s draft. I really hope we can find a way to bring this to a happy resolution.

Sincerely,

David Shipley

8 posted on 07/21/2008 11:38:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The media is losing its monopoly. Crass behavior like this is simply driving more people to desert it. The American people know its in the tank for Obama.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 07/21/2008 11:45:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wasn’t this a James Bond movie plot. The private sector media manipulating news to the public?


10 posted on 07/22/2008 12:00:06 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: goldstategop
All Patriotic American business should quit paying for advertisement space in the NYT in protest of this slimy papers bias and traitorous attempt at swaying an election, circumventing the peoples right to choose and elect its government based on unbiased and truthful reporting.

Shipley should be charged and tossed in the can.

11 posted on 07/22/2008 12:09:12 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"One irony of the internet age: the rejected piece will probably wind up getting far more attention by the controversy whipped up by Matt Drudge then if the New York Times had just gone ahead and published it," said Kurtz.

Matt's success is a remarkable story. He sits where he is today because he won fair and square in the marketplace. But the extraordinary power he now wields over the modern news cycle is beginning to trouble me. These days it seems as if one man is The Grand Filter who determines what is and isn't considered "News". And that gives me pause.

12 posted on 07/22/2008 12:58:47 AM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: BIGLOOK
Yup.

"Tomorrow" was the name of the newspaper.

13 posted on 07/22/2008 1:24:17 AM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Nathan Zachary
All Patriotic American business should quit paying for advertisement space in the NYT ...

As readership drops, the amount the Times can charge advertisers drops. This is reflected nicely in the Times stock price. The free market is a bitch, ain't it, NYTimes?

14 posted on 07/22/2008 2:39:43 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
I wish I were a NY Times subscriber so I could cancel my subscription.
The NY Times had the audacity to call me the other day to see if I would subscribe to their rag. I was prepared to give them a ear-full when I realized that the girl calling was some minimum wage subcontractor who was working for the Times only for today. She will be calling somebody else tomorrow for some other product. And I really wanted to VENT!
15 posted on 07/22/2008 2:49:23 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Once again the AHOLES miss the point entirely, I dont care what the editorial says ,he is a Presidential candidate ,put it in and let the people decide ,AHOLE


16 posted on 07/22/2008 3:50:53 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He should have told the Slimes to shove their endorsement where the sun doesn’t shine


17 posted on 07/22/2008 3:52:01 AM PDT by Kaslin (Vote Democrat if you like high gas prices at the pump)
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To: Raycpa
We have another presidential candidate besides Obama?

THERE IS NO GOD BUT OBAMA! STOP TELLING YOUR FILTHY LIES OR I'LL REPORT YOU TO THE MEDIA!

/madness

18 posted on 07/22/2008 3:57:53 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Great Allahpundit line: ‘You’re a real conservative at last, Maverick!’ Anyone think McCain will get a clue?

Thus the epic battle of the NYT/LeftMedia vs Freedom...IMO the Left/Media is making some terrific errors like this one. Of course this will get coverage but only because the Messiah trip has no substantial content and is embarassing if covered too closely. All they have is pictures and rainbows.


19 posted on 07/22/2008 4:14:28 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting that in their desire to help Obama they have made their lack of objectivity all the more obvious and have created a situation that will create sympathy for John McCain. I just saw Bill Richardson on F&F trying to make this sound like it is no big deal. It was hilarious!


20 posted on 07/22/2008 4:40:56 AM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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