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Kanzius says 'no' to UPMC (Cancer Killing Machine)
www.goerie.com ^ | 7/30/2008 | BY DAVID BRUCE

Posted on 08/04/2008 5:43:22 AM PDT by Red Badger

The University of Pittsburgh Medical Center made John Kanzius an offer he did refuse. Kanzius met earlier this month with top administrators from the Pittsburgh health-care system. They told him they wanted to fund all cancer research for his external radio-wave generator. In return, UPMC would have owned the project's intellectual property rights for cancer treatment. Kanzius thought about it for a day. "I told them no," Kanzius said Tuesday, the first time he has spoken publicly about the UPMC offer. "They said they would invest millions of dollars in it, but my question is, do I want a single entity running the show, or do I want to continue going about it the way we have been?" Researchers at UPMC and M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston are conducting experiments with the device, which kills cancerous tumors in live animals. It sends high-powered radio waves into the body, heating cells targeted with nanoparticles, tiny pieces of gold or carbon, while leaving untargeted cells alone. Kanzius has been working to secure funds for the project. Steven Curley, M.D., principal investigator for the device at M.D. Anderson, has said it would cost about $10 million to fund the work needed to take it to human trials. UPMC offered to cover all costs through human trials, Kanzius said. A UPMC spokeswoman confirmed that the medical center had talks with Kanzius, but would not elaborate. Kanzius said the partnership discussions are finished. "I'm just not ready to share it right now," Kanzius said. "Especially with a managing partner." ...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: cancer; health; healthcare; medical; radiofrequency
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Smart move?.......opinions?........
1 posted on 08/04/2008 5:43:22 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Absolutely smart Move....

As someone who lives in Pittsburgh, I would not trust UPMC with this IP... a university or the fed needs to step up and fund this, so it will be available to all and not be a treatment that equals royalty payments to UPMC for anyone who wants it, and outside the cost of folks.

Sorry, but I’ve seen UPMC destroy too many good things here in their quest for world domination.


2 posted on 08/04/2008 5:47:16 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Red Badger
it would cost about $10 million to fund the work needed to take it to human trials.

I wish Bill Gates would toss $10M to him, no strings attached. Unfortunately, Gates is more likely to funnel hundreds of millions to Africa. God only knows why.

3 posted on 08/04/2008 5:49:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: HamiltonJay

yes yes!! the GOVERNMENT should run this...~!!!


4 posted on 08/04/2008 5:52:09 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: HamiltonJay
Agreed. Some academic cabal sitting on this thing - if it pans out - will bugger it up for sure. I have seen similar things (non-medical products) mishandled and become political footballs to the loss and detriment of all. Seems to me a ‘for profit’ consortium would deliver the product most economically and - ultimately - the most widely.
5 posted on 08/04/2008 5:52:11 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: Red Badger

There should be plenty of investors in the Venture Capital world who would front the money for a piece, but not a managing partner piece, of the action.


6 posted on 08/04/2008 5:53:12 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Red Badger

He can get better more flexible funding. I don’t trust such a hospital

Look up ye old Rife machine. Kamzius has made a better version

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBUS285US285&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=rife+kanzius&spell=1


7 posted on 08/04/2008 5:53:23 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: Red Badger

Anyone consider that this guy could be a fraud?


8 posted on 08/04/2008 5:53:35 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: HamiltonJay
but I’ve seen UPMC destroy too many good things here in their quest for world domination.

The only thing UPMC has ever done for me is to save my life a few times. They are well run, ambitious, and motivated. Maybe they are just mean to other people.

9 posted on 08/04/2008 5:56:02 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Mr. K

The technology works. It’s documented. It has only to be human tested and approved by the government’s FDA. This device could have major, major implications for cancer treatments all across the board.................


10 posted on 08/04/2008 5:56:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Red Badger
My instincts say it was a very smart move. I don't know anything about UPMC, but I do know that I would not trust Ed Rendell as far as I could throw him. That would not be very far because I am a small woman and he is a big man.
11 posted on 08/04/2008 5:57:07 AM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: Glenn

You haven’t been paying attention then.

I never said they had bad doctors, I said they destroy things they touch as a corporation.

I’m sure Dr. Mengala saved a few lives in his day as well, doesn’t mean the NAZI party was a saving grace.


12 posted on 08/04/2008 5:58:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Mr. K
Anyone consider that this guy could be a fraud?

So what if he is? This will be found out if true
Much of modern medicine is a fraud
You know how many patients die from hospital caused infections each year?

How many unneeded procedures are done each year just to line doctors (and others) pockets

13 posted on 08/04/2008 6:00:37 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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Smart move?.......

Absolutely. Why give Pitt a monoply on perhaps the most important breakthrough in a generation.

The more diverse parties doing the research the quicker it will mature.

14 posted on 08/04/2008 6:01:07 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Red Badger

Now the doctor has a bargaining chip with investors in this latest cancer killer, so he can hopely maintain his control over this product. Best of luck!


15 posted on 08/04/2008 6:02:09 AM PDT by kcm.org (Conservatives bashing Sen. McCain has Ronald Reagan spinning in his grave!!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Do you think Gates gets back millions from charitable deductions outside the US? Follow the money.


16 posted on 08/04/2008 6:08:43 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Pietro; kcm.org; Mr. K; HamiltonJay; ClearCase_guy; AU72; dennisw; Glenn; srmorton

It must be pretty evident from the preliminary animal tests that it is substantial in it’s human possibilities, else UPMC would not have made the offer in the first place. The other place, Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, is also testing the device. Somebody in the world, Gates, Buffet, Bloomberg, etc. should just write a check...................


17 posted on 08/04/2008 6:09:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: dennisw

“so what if he is”

did you really say that?


18 posted on 08/04/2008 6:09:32 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: srmorton

I don’t think fast eddie has gotten his filthy paws on UPMC-at least I hope not. UPMC was where Salk developed the polio vaccine, and Starzl did some of his greatest work.


19 posted on 08/04/2008 6:10:39 AM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: Mr. K

I saw a piece on him during which he demonstrated the machine and discussed its implications. Pretty convincing argument and I believe (someone confirm?) that he used it on his own cancer.


20 posted on 08/04/2008 6:10:53 AM PDT by sarasota
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