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Posh Spice is descendant of comrade of (Karl) Marx
Guardian ^ | Monday August 4 2008 | Iain Rogers

Posted on 08/05/2008 12:27:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Pop singer Victoria Beckham is a descendant of a 19th century German communist who was close to Karl Marx, a German historian was quoted as saying on Monday.

Beckham, born Victoria Adams and now wife of soccer player David Beckham, is the great-great-great-granddaughter of revolutionary and artist Carl Heinrich Pfaender, said Hans Mueller, a historian from the southwestern city of Heilbronn.

Mueller told news agency ddp he had researched the life of Heilbronn native Pfaender, who lived from 1819 to 1876 and was a close associate of Marx and Friedrich Engels. Pfaender took part in the failed revolution of 1848 and was forced to flee to London where he worked as a miniaturist and painter to make ends meet, he added. "He certainly didn't get rich doing it," Mueller said. "His wife was buried in a pauper's grave."

The historian told ddp he was astonished to discover the link between a pioneer of the workers' movement and the pop star, and has contacted Beckham's mother Jacqueline. He said she had confirmed his findings and promised to tell Victoria, who came to fame as "Posh Spice" in the Spice Girls. Pfaender's brother Wilhelm was a choral singer who was also active in the revolution and emigrated to America in 1848, later becoming state treasurer in Minnesota, Mueller said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: geneology; marx; victoriabeckham
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1 posted on 08/05/2008 12:27:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Slow News Day Alert!


2 posted on 08/05/2008 12:28:45 PM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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To: nickcarraway

uhhh.... this is FR, not the Daily Mail.


3 posted on 08/05/2008 12:30:03 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: nickcarraway

But Obama is a disciple of Marx.


4 posted on 08/05/2008 12:30:46 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: nickcarraway

They do kind of look alike ...


5 posted on 08/05/2008 12:30:55 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: nickcarraway

lol


6 posted on 08/05/2008 12:31:44 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: mbraynard
uhhh.... this is FR, not the Daily Mail.

Well if we have to endure this, we should at least declare the TTIUWOP rule.
7 posted on 08/05/2008 12:32:31 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: nickcarraway
I get Posh confused with Anaksunamun from The Mummy. They look almost identical.
8 posted on 08/05/2008 12:33:40 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: nickcarraway

Cool. If Karl Marx can still see all this, this is even better than the his full-size bronze statue wearing women’s underwear in Vilnius.


9 posted on 08/05/2008 12:34:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nickcarraway

So Karl Marx’s brother, active in the revolution, moved to America and became state treasurer of Minnesota?

That might explain a few things.


10 posted on 08/05/2008 12:35:16 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: nickcarraway

Six degrees of separation.


11 posted on 08/05/2008 12:36:17 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Where did the ferry money go? Enquiring minds want to know.")
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To: nickcarraway
Actually, I like Posh. I do.

When Vicki and Dave came to California, they were befriended by Mr. and Mrs. Tom Cruise. TomKat wanted to convert their new neighbors to Scientology. The celeb blogs said Vicki put her tiny little foot down and said no. Any celeb who turns down the thetans can't be bad in my book...

12 posted on 08/05/2008 12:36:53 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: windcliff

ping


13 posted on 08/05/2008 12:37:30 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (I'm a loner Dottie; a rebel.)
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To: Perdogg

A Posh Ping to you :)


14 posted on 08/05/2008 12:39:48 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I guess she’s already “clear.”


15 posted on 08/05/2008 12:41:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Yeah, I can see the resemblance

16 posted on 08/05/2008 12:41:49 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: nickcarraway

Chortle :)


17 posted on 08/05/2008 12:42:36 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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18 posted on 08/05/2008 12:44:35 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: nickcarraway

And my paternal Grandfather was part of a 2-man machine gun team for the Kaiser during WWI....yawn, definitely a slow news day.


19 posted on 08/05/2008 12:46:36 PM PDT by nesnah (Expression with an attitude - www.polistic.com)
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To: nickcarraway

She can be my Commissar anytime.


20 posted on 08/05/2008 12:50:20 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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