Posted on 08/10/2008 2:09:43 PM PDT by tcg
Abortion has been dividing the culture, including political parties for over 30 years now. In its last several iterations with the Clintons, Al Gore, and John Kerry, the Democratic party platform has been rather decidedly one-sided.Roe v. Wade is to be affirmed and defended. End of story. Oh yes, there was the language of "safe, legal and rare," but the emphasis was always on 'safe and legal,' with 'rare' little more than an afterthought.
Barack Obama is a different type of candidate. As he sees it, Roe is not an endorsement of abortion, so much as an affirmation that abortion is a moral question for which only the potential mother can give answer. To impose either safe or legal or rare is, to him, to have the government displace the woman's freedom.
From a Catholic perspective, of course, this is a false freedom since, as John Paul II taught so ably, freedom must never be separated from the truth of the human person.
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Doug Kmiec is delusional if he thinks that Barack Obama, one of the most extreme pro-abortionists in the Democrat party, will relent.
Obama has not only voted repeatedly in favor of partial birth abortion, he has three times voted to allow the killing of infants who are born alive.
Kmiec is a Catholic who was talked into joining the Obama campaign. I can only conclude that he has lost his mind.
...and soul.
Kimec claims to be a conservative who supports Obama. He was totally dismayed and claimed the USSC misread the Constitution when they declard the 2nd amendment a individual right. He is NOT a Conservative or Libertarian. Is is a middle of the road Catholic Moderate.
Why do the Catholics allow this guy to write for Catholic.org?
He has really gone over the edge.
he absolutely drives me insane. someone who knows him needs to call him out on this stuff, it is mind-boggling that he can call himself a prolife Catholic while spewing this nonsense. i am almost positive that a freeper, who knows him personally, commented on one of these threads once, and i can’t recall the freeper’s name, because i would truly love to know what is going on in Doug Kmiec’s head.
like a lot of Catholics on the Left, he suffers from Bush Derangement syndrome, so is willing to kill babies to have his messiah elected.
I confess I hadn’t heard of Kmiec until he joined Catholics for Obama, but a lot of pro-lifers speak as if he used to be one of them, and seem surprised.
If so, he must think that the race card trumps all. A sad business.
"Catholic.org" isn't run by the church. It's a for-profit business, basically a web portal supported by advertisers.
They tout their fidelity to the Holy See, but they publish Doug Kmiec. Something doesn't add up.
Mr. Kmeic seems to have fallen for the seamless garment argument that abortion is just one of many social justice issues that Catholics need to focus on. I am not surprised that the Democrats have taken the position that they have because they have a history of blaming outside forces for the behavior and actions of individuals. Women are having abortion because there is not adequate pre-natal care, post birth child care and well paying jobs to help support the child.
It is fundamentally dishonest. In poll after poll, more than 90 percent of abortions are attributed to convenience. A sort of birth control after the fact. The specious claim that Democrats desire abortion to be safe, legal and rare is like the sleight of hand a magician uses, distracting pro-lifers on the one hand all the while supporting this holocaust with the other. Why, if abortion is morally acceptable would one care if it is rare?
This is not an issue where there can be any compromise. As a Catholic, I will not vote for a pro-abortion politician. We cannot play both sides here. Either abortion is morally wrong or it isn’t. The one comment he made that I can fully support is that if one is honestly pro-choice, as opposed to being pro-abortion, one would support the choice to not abort. There are thousands of non-profit, privately funded places who help these women yet very few of the mega funders of Planned Parenthood or NARAL donate to them.
This guy doesn’t want his religion to get in the way of his party.
If this is the same Catholic.org run out of Bakersfield, they were recently sued for fraud. I believe there is an ongoing criminal investigation. I am surprised they haven’t been shut down yet.
It wasn’t me, but I agree somebody needs to talk some sense into him.
He could also be a trojan horse conservative.
It is remarkable that anyone could consider himk a "conervative" since he advocates for man-made global warming, is hostile to Israel, and has endorsed confiscatory taxation.
Yikes! I use them for my personal email. Time to switch!
I haven’t been paying close attention but I think this is the same group. Check out the blog comments.
http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2007/03/30/dont-ever-do-business-with-catholic-online/
Yes, Catholic.org is an associated business. I have used their free email for years for my personal email, but since my last post about this matter I have registered my last name as a domain and will be switching over.
I see that the trouble they got into has to do with an online payment system they set up. I have set up some online donation and e-commerce websites, and never once did I consider the payment gateway on the basis of religion. I always go with proven fiduciarily responsible companies, and I don’t care if the owners worship a cosmic muffin: Authorize.net, PayPal, Mel’s Ecommerce, etc.
I hope nobody loses money with them, but come tomorrow, I’m gone.
Very sad. professor Kmiec does not recognize evil when he sees it. Opposing legislation to protect a baby when it survives an abortion attempt is evil. I won’t now nor will I ever fight that evil with humility but fight it I will.
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