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Schantag said that it's a shame those who tell such lies can't take pride in what they truly accomplished.

"They really want to be the hero elite, and they forget that it takes every member of the military to make a mission successful," Schantag said. "It doesn't matter whether they are the clerk typing in orders or the cook making meals or the guy on the front lines."

Or even, say, a US Senator...

1 posted on 08/18/2008 2:51:29 PM PDT by Interesting Times
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Phony veterans ping...


2 posted on 08/18/2008 2:52:46 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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Oh yeah? Well not to brag or anything- but I was the 301st Spartan Hopelite at Thermopylae.

No, not the squatty one with the forty pound wart on his back and a penchant for treason. The *secret* one. My orders were so classified that Herodotus never heard of it.

Now you know.


3 posted on 08/18/2008 2:58:57 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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Three Purple Hearts!!!


4 posted on 08/18/2008 2:59:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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Kudos to Schantag, Robinson, et al for exposing these phonies.

And a bump for all those who truly sacrificed for their country.


5 posted on 08/18/2008 3:00:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Don’t know about other wars, but my father and most of those in the World War II generation talked very little about their service. Dad served on a landing ship which took dead and wounded out of hot battles like Iwo Jima and Okinawa when it dropped off supplies. Even when I got older and asked him about it, the cost in lives still bothered him, but he did it because it was his duty. The real heros, he said, were those who didn’t come home.


6 posted on 08/18/2008 3:00:41 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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In my experience, veterans themselves are some of the worst. Anyone with a military ID card can walk into any base uniform shop and walk out with a bunch of ribbons and any special qualification badges.

There was a Chief at my last command who wore the Combat V on his Bronze Star until he got called on it. That was the same reason Boorda shot himself.

I take reasonable pride in my 13 years of Naval Service, but God knows I didn’t do anything heroic or earth-shaking in that time.

As for the civvie pukes who claim to be SEALs and snipers. They always get caught eventually. I have more pity for them than anything else. Especially given the huge numbers of actual combat vets out there these days who can spot a phony in a heartbeat.


7 posted on 08/18/2008 3:01:07 PM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was a saint?)
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Are you talking about the Senator who’s sleazily shopping for the coming Democrat VP pick, or the Senator who was the last Democrat nominee and loser to President Bush?


8 posted on 08/18/2008 3:01:16 PM PDT by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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Then there was the notorious case of Professor Joseph Ellis, who liked to regale his college history classes of malleable young minds with tales of his supposed heroics in Vietnam. I think he ‘suffered’ a year’s suspension from teaching at Mt. Holyoke, which for a professor just meant a sabbatical to pursue his own writing and research...... just a hiccup in his career, really, despite his extensive and contemptible frauds:


http://www.mobylives.com/Joseph_Ellis.html

During the war in Vietnam, he said, he wasn’t just a soldier assigned to some obscure Army base — he saw action “clearing out” the area around My Lai. He wasn’t just a grunt, either — he was commander of a platoon of combat paratroopers from the legendary 101st Airborne. In fact, he was such a good leader that he was elevated to the staff of American commander General William Westmoreland.

Not a word of it was true, of course — Ellis never left the States during Vietnam.

But the thing is, Joseph Ellis isn’t some poor slob in a bar. He’s a Pulitzer Prize–winning biographer and professor of history at prestigious Mt. Holyoke College.

And he told those stories to students in a class he taught on Vietnam. He repeated them in interviews and even on television. And the war stories weren’t the half of it.

He told the Boston Globe last year that he was repulsed by what he saw in Vietnam and joined the peace movement when he returned home. He did civil rights work in Mississippi, too, he said, and was seen as such a threat by the white power structure that state police followed him.

And, as if claiming heroic involvement in nearly all of the era’s significant historical events wasn’t enough, he told the Globe he’d scored the winning touchdown in the last game of his senior year in high school.

He wasn’t even on the team.

...... [more at link]

http://www.mobylives.com/Joseph_Ellis.html


18 posted on 08/18/2008 3:14:00 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama-cons: Trying to fool America, one media dupe at a time!)
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Many years ago, my ship pulled into Ft Lauderdale. Of course sailors are going to be hitting the local night club and we hit the Baja Beach Club. Well, there was this short guy, dressed in summer whites with ensign bars, gold flight wings and a chest full of ribbons. But he had black shoes on. With summer whites, you wear white shoes! Needless to say, we confronted him and chased his sorry a$$ out of there.


19 posted on 08/18/2008 3:14:22 PM PDT by SolitaryMan (Patriotic dissent is a luxury of those protected by better men than they.)
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With a name like John Smith, you have to find away to separate yourself from the rest.
21 posted on 08/18/2008 3:18:36 PM PDT by trumandogz
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But did any of their ‘made up stories’ get them three Purple Hearts? It worked for John Kerry.


26 posted on 08/18/2008 3:46:09 PM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE--a euphemism for further dividing our country along racial, social and economic lines)
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That does it! I'm returning my Good Conduct Ribbon.

(I wasn't that good)

28 posted on 08/18/2008 3:51:56 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (One liberal on the GOP ticket is enough.)
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I had a world history teacher in high school that told every class about how he had sunk a Jap sub with a shot from his 45 into the sub’s periscope. Every class would wait for his story. Obviously no one believed it but it would crack up the kids and the Marianist brothers and other teachers.


30 posted on 08/18/2008 3:55:20 PM PDT by Cyman
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I spent 21 years in the Army Guard and by year 3-4 quit listening to the stories. If everyone who said they had shot at “Charlie” had actually done so, Vietnam would be a state.
Later when I became a Battery commander I started looking up the official 201s for these “heroes”. One guy was so bad I took him aside and told him to lay off the stories to the younger guys. If he did not, then the next time we met in class-A, I was going to jail him for being out of uniform (should at least be a Vietnam service ribbon) and if he did show with the correct ribbon I was going to jail him for not having documentation.

It has been my life long experience that the ones who did the service and faced the hell, don't talk about it. Not unless you get real close to them.

48 posted on 08/18/2008 4:33:27 PM PDT by M.K. Borders (Be Brave, Be Free. Burn the Card!)
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They are in trouble because they couldn’t brave sniper fire in Bosnia when Air Force “broom stick 1” almost crash landed on the “hot tarmac”


53 posted on 08/18/2008 4:41:21 PM PDT by Munz (Infiltrate Interrogate Eradicate NEXT!)
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These fakers disgust me


85 posted on 08/18/2008 7:14:24 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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Thanks for the ping. Senator John Kerry not only claims medals he didn’t earn, he also claimed one that never existed (Silver Star with V for Valor).


91 posted on 08/18/2008 9:21:54 PM PDT by zot
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