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1 posted on 08/22/2008 5:01:13 PM PDT by dragnet2
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I see old Paddy is investing in tin futures again. He's got everything in this one. Georgia, some Jewish guys, Iraq, NeoCons. Man.. all he needs are the buildacheeseburgers, Masons, and trilateral commission and we would have a full house.
2 posted on 08/22/2008 5:04:40 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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Source to see copies of these documents Pat claims exist?
3 posted on 08/22/2008 5:07:02 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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President Bush, saving your ass whether you like it or not.


8 posted on 08/22/2008 5:10:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Pat, Pat, Pat!
There’s no such thing as peace, only R&R.


9 posted on 08/22/2008 5:12:35 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Dear Mr. Buchanan:

I strongly suggest you buy a map of Asia. Or at least call one up on Google if you happen to know how to use the Internet. Now, check out the location of Afghanistan. And note how Georgia is a narrow avenue to Central Asia between Russia and Iran. And that Georgia provides us the means to both fly planes from Europe to Afghanistan and to allow Caspian oil to bypass Russia and Iran. And now tell us how Georgia is NOT a vital US national security interest.

Oops, never mind. You probably would LIKE more oil revenues to flow to your fascist soul brothers in both countries, and for us to be hamstrung in Afghanistan. And you're probably mad that we have bases in Europe because it means we beat Hitler's ass in WWII. A war YOU thought wasn't worth fighting.

So Pat, tell us again why we should give a rat's arse about your opinion whether a war is worth fighting or not.

12 posted on 08/22/2008 5:21:39 PM PDT by dirtboy
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I don’t know why this crowd no matter the message—automatically imputes treachery to Buchanan. For instance, the Israelis stopped sending arms and support to the Georgians as soon as the Russian conflict heated up. Does that make Israel sellouts, treasonous, turncoats to America and its interests?

I would be willing to bet that many on this board who now condemn Buchanan for being unwilling to support the Georgians would not be so happy to condemn Israel for doing the same thing.

For that matter I would be willing to bet that most on this board could not even find South Ossetia on the map before this conflict heated up.


13 posted on 08/22/2008 5:23:19 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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Russia's control of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and occupation of a strip of Georgia cannot be a casus belli for the United States.

It isn't.

On the other hand, if Georgia were already a member state, Russia wouldn't have been so ready to allow artillery harrassment of Georgians. Georgia wouldn't have been so ready to launch an intervention they would need NATO backing for.

More likely, none of this would have happened.

The current demarkation would have simply become the border.

As it is, this is what is going to happen. Georgia will not admit it, but if they want into NATO they will have to forget Ossetia. NATO isn't going to fight for it. Russia will have to rein in their bully boys, because NATO won't stand for it. Granted, there won't be much militarily they can do about it, but their diplomats will simply annoy everyone until it stops.

NATO membership is a two-edged instrument. Georgia is defended, but Georgia's military gets some third-party supervision.

I think a case could be made that Putin favors McCain. His adventure in Georgia has probably made McCain's election a certainty.

14 posted on 08/22/2008 5:28:43 PM PDT by marron
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Quotes from Pat Buchanan:

“Washington D.C. is Israeli-occupied territory.”

“Only the Israeli Defense Ministry and its amen corner in the United States wanted to fight Saddam Hussein.”

“Hitler’s success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path.”

“This so-called Holocaust Survivor syndrome involves group fantasies of martyrdom and heroics.”


18 posted on 08/22/2008 5:56:30 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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Now Scheunemann is the neocon agent in place in McCain's camp.
The neocons got their war with Iraq. They are pushing for war on Iran. And they are now baiting the Russian Bear.

Sounds like another "Neocon" kook conspiracy theory by P Buchanan. Im sure Obama agrees completely with his "neocon" war conspiracies. Those sneaky "neocons" in the Bush Administration picking on Iraq, Iran and baiting those poor unsuspecting Russians.

19 posted on 08/22/2008 5:57:32 PM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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"But why should Americans fight Russians to force 70,000 South Ossetians back into the custody of a regime they detest? Why not let the South Ossetians decide their own future in free elections?"

20 posted on 08/22/2008 6:36:00 PM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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I just wish Pat would issue these statements in the original German, there is just so much lost in the translation.


22 posted on 08/22/2008 6:56:16 PM PDT by mkjessup ("People are going to begin to wonder if Russia can be trusted!" - SecState Maddy Rice, well DUH!!!!)
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Thanks for posting. The role played for foreign lobbyists in shaping American foreign policy is nauseating, and would disgust the Founding Fathers, as Buchanan’s citation to the pertinent portion of Washington’s Farewell Address shows.


23 posted on 08/22/2008 7:31:06 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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Yawn.


24 posted on 08/22/2008 7:37:48 PM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents give their children are siblings.)
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To: indylindy; calcowgirl; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; Sybeck1; Ricebug; ...
He is a dual loyalist, a foreign agent whose assignment is to get America committed to spilling the blood of her sons for client regimes who have made this moral mercenary a rich man.

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25 posted on 08/22/2008 7:50:04 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Conservatives can be mavericks too.)
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This article is sheer blather.


27 posted on 08/22/2008 9:05:47 PM PDT by mtntop3
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http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=UBRl-BvKJII&feature=user


33 posted on 08/23/2008 8:37:11 AM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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I saw this piece too, and thought that if this is true, this should not be a partisan issue. Anyone who is allowed to be this close to becoming the US National Security Adviser and who is offering US foreign policy for sale, should be taken out by their own Party before the Democrats have a field day with it. So I checked out Randy Scheunemann:

Wiki

Right Web

USA Today

From what I can glean online, Buchanan does have the Scheunemann resume correct.

34 posted on 08/23/2008 8:40:28 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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