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The world's verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for ("Who Cares?" Alert)
UK Guardian ^ | September 10, 2008 | Jonathan Freedland

Posted on 09/10/2008 6:12:34 AM PDT by seanrobins

The feeling is familiar. I had it four years ago and four years before that: a sinking feeling in the stomach. It's a kind of physical pessimism which says: "It's happening again. The Democrats are about to lose an election they should win - and it could not matter more."

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Look at yesterday's opinion polls, which have John McCain either in a dead heat with Obama or narrowly ahead. Given the well-documented tendency of African-American candidates to perform better in polls than in elections - thanks to people who say they will vote for a black man but don't - this suggests Obama is now trailing badly. More troubling was the ABC News-Washington Post survey which found McCain ahead among white women by 53% to 41%. Two weeks ago, Obama had a 15% lead among women.

There is only one explanation for that turnaround, and it was not McCain's tranquilliser of a convention speech: Obama's lead has been crushed by the Palin bounce.

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Of course I know that even to mention Obama's support around the world is to hurt him. Incredibly, that large Berlin crowd damaged Obama at home, branding him the "candidate of Europe" and making him seem less of a patriotic American. But what does that say about today's America, that the world's esteem is now unwanted? If Americans reject Obama, they will be sending the clearest possible message to the rest of us - and, make no mistake, we shall hear it

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KEYWORDS: jonathanfreedland; mccain; nonamericancaucus; nonamericanvote; obama
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Freedland, like so many others in the "Internationalist" crowd, just does not get America. We should be like them, and we should care what they think.

I sent him the following e-mail, to which I doubt he will respond, but here it is:

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Geez, I don't even know where to begin, with a fool like yourself.

Why is it that "Internationalist" One-World commies like yourself have this incredibly silly belief that Americans give a rat's ass what the world thinks? Because a brother commie like O'bambi (or John Kerry in 2004), neither of whom I'd consider patriots, believe that "America's reputation in the world needs to be repaired"? You continue to believe them, and to believe that Americans care what you and other internationalist twits think.

If you were here (in the greatest nation on God's green earth), I would tell you: "America, love it or leave it." Since you're not, I'll simply say: "Piss off"

You in the UK, and across the European Crapola Union can keep on digging your political and social graves by making yourselves more and more dependant upon a bunch of bureaucrats to tell you all what to do, when and how to do it, what to think and eat and buy and sell, and how to live your lives. And you can continue to see what freedom you still have dwindle down, further and further until you are part of a big glomp commie union, with no culture of your own, and no identities of your own, and no voice of your own.

As for us Yanks, we'll keep our freedom, and our identity, and our greatness as the strongest and the best nation the world has ever known; and yes, we'll even continue (although I sometimes question why), to pull your British (and european) asses out of the fires that will be consuming you all as you are overtaken by Putin and radical islamist extremists. But we'll continue to live our lives as WE see fit, not as you see fit.

And if that means that we don't have your "respect," then that will be one of the smaller prices that we have had to pay for freedom.

sr

1 posted on 09/10/2008 6:12:34 AM PDT by seanrobins
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To: seanrobins

Well boo frickin hoo


2 posted on 09/10/2008 6:14:01 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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. The Democrats are about to lose an election they should win - and it could not matter more."

You got THAT right!!!

3 posted on 09/10/2008 6:14:21 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: seanrobins

To quote an old biker:

“FTW!”


4 posted on 09/10/2008 6:15:05 AM PDT by Califreak (Rome is burning and nobody cares)
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To: seanrobins

>>>But what does that say about today’s America, that the world’s esteem is now unwanted?

Its not so much that the “world’s esteem” is not wanted. . . frankly, I could take it or leave it. The problem is, the price that the “world” expects for this “esteem” is simply too high. Americans will not trade what makes them and this nation great for a little bit of not-so-useful “esteem”.

(Conversely, those who are truly our friends and allies, will provide us with all the “esteem” that we need, even if we don’t cow-tow to the internationists.)


5 posted on 09/10/2008 6:15:17 AM PDT by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: seanrobins

From the UK: you don’t need me to tell you that what the rest of the world thinks is neither here nor there. The Guardian is a liberal lefty paper with ‘one world politics of hope’. ‘nuff said.


6 posted on 09/10/2008 6:15:41 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: seanrobins

I agree, boo hoo....


7 posted on 09/10/2008 6:15:51 AM PDT by Mere
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To: seanrobins
If Americans reject Obama, they will be sending the clearest possible message to the rest of us - and, make no mistake, we shall hear it

We've been telling you weaklings to kiss off for years. You can't muster the will or the strength to confront the islamist threat at your throats in your own country's and you expect the USA to care what you think? Western Europe is history.

8 posted on 09/10/2008 6:15:54 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: seanrobins

Tough. Get over it!


9 posted on 09/10/2008 6:16:05 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: seanrobins

I would just ask the writer of this article one question. When has America ever cared what the rest of the world thinks? The whole reason that all of our ancestors came to this country way back when was because they did not want to have anything to do with “Old Europe”.


10 posted on 09/10/2008 6:16:16 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: seanrobins

Hey “World”

BITE ME

Cheers, Uncle Sam


11 posted on 09/10/2008 6:17:15 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: seanrobins

Bye, haters.


12 posted on 09/10/2008 6:17:16 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: seanrobins

If the world becomes U.S. citizens, pays taxes, and works here, then maybe they can have an opinion on our Presidential race.


13 posted on 09/10/2008 6:17:20 AM PDT by madison10 (Pray for McCains, Palins and the USA...and the rest of us, too.)
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To: seanrobins

That’s ok, Mr. Freedland. I will plead “necessity” and “self-defense.”


14 posted on 09/10/2008 6:17:54 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: seanrobins
U.S.A. to Jonathan Freedland:

MYOB!


15 posted on 09/10/2008 6:17:54 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
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To: seanrobins
SILENCE!...

euroweenies.

You'll find your tiny brains will hurt less if you try not to speak.

16 posted on 09/10/2008 6:18:01 AM PDT by DocH (A tactical NUKE (Sarah Palin) has been dropped on Osama Hussein Obama)
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To: seanrobins
Beware of dog.


17 posted on 09/10/2008 6:18:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: seanrobins
Suddenly Europeans and others will conclude that their dispute is with not only one ruling clique, but Americans themselves.

Britain, Germany, and France have all elected friends of America to lead their countries since George W. Bush was inaugurated in January 2001. President Bush, despite a loud annoying minority of leftists who hate him (both here and in Europe), has done pretty well by Europe. And I'm certain that John McCain will do at least as well.
18 posted on 09/10/2008 6:18:26 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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They really should buy a full page add in the major USA newspapers. Nothing like a threat from pants wetting Europeans to rile up the voting base.


19 posted on 09/10/2008 6:18:43 AM PDT by listenhillary (Palin accomplished more in the PTA than Obama did as a community organizer)
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To: seanrobins
These liberal British boobs don't get it. Americans stay out of British elections, they should stay out of ours, but they are so arrogant and think they no best, they can't shut up.

The Guardian did this 4 years ago when they did a letter camapign to Clark County Ohio voters.

20 posted on 09/10/2008 6:19:24 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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