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Can I put up a yard sign? Is this America?

Posted on 09/24/2008 6:41:20 PM PDT by MrChips

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To: weegee
I don’t think it would be permitted to restrict your political right to free speech

Maybe you should read the first amendment?

I wonder how you feel about restricting the "free speech rights" of high school teachers to advocate for one candidate or another in their classrooms.

ML/NJ

41 posted on 09/24/2008 6:56:55 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I just moved her. I signed a mortgage. I signed no contract.


42 posted on 09/24/2008 6:57:14 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips, PhiKapMom)
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To: MrChips

The covenant runs with the land. When you bought the property, you bought it subject to the covenant. It is not merely personal to the person who signs the document.


43 posted on 09/24/2008 6:58:09 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: buccaneer81

They are good people, just different priorities. I don’t mind it since I’m not trying to sell my house. Lol

It would be difficult if we were trying to sell though.


44 posted on 09/24/2008 6:58:34 PM PDT by republicangel
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To: Tublecane

It’s in the covenants which are more than legally enforceable, and attached to the Warranty Deed, Tublecane. Not much you can do about it once you’ve purchased the property with the understanding that the covenants are binding by your own signature.

Sorry situation, in my opinion.

Best Regards,

BR


45 posted on 09/24/2008 6:59:01 PM PDT by Birmingham Rain (Go home, Obama.)
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To: EDINVA

nope


46 posted on 09/24/2008 6:59:18 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips, PhiKapMom)
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To: driftdiver
Can you give me a compass heading to a few dozen acres in the Tampa area that doesn’t cost a fortune?

Pretty soon now, all of them.

47 posted on 09/24/2008 6:59:28 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: MrChips
Dear Mr. Chips,

Depends on which state you live in. Texas state law allows signs, even if the governing documents prohibit them, for up to 30 days before an election and 2 days afterwards. Max 1 sign per issue on the ballot and 1 per candidate.

Check your state laws.

48 posted on 09/24/2008 6:59:36 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Proud Retrosexual Wife of 15 Years)
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To: The Chief

Or put the sign up and then take it down after receiving the letter. Our HOA rep drives through once every 2 months at a leisurely 45 mph. Others are more careful of course but this one is afraid to note something the builder is doing wrong if they go slow.


49 posted on 09/24/2008 6:59:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: dinoparty

“Its because you don’t ‘own’ the property in an unlimited sense. You own certain, but not all, rights to the property. A right to place a sign is not part of what you purchased...just like the right to tear down the telephone pole in your yard is not part of what you purchased.”

I’m still confused. If you pay property taxes, that property is yours in the eyes of the law. What legal authority does the HOA have? How can they make your ownership limited after you are seen as the owner in the eyes of the law? The mechanics of it don’t make sense to me. I understand apartments and condos—although the government allows you certain rights as a renter, you don’t own an apartment like you own land.


50 posted on 09/24/2008 7:00:26 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: MrChips

Our local right wing radio talk show host was talking about this all morning. He had a McCain-Palin sign stolen from his yard. Left = freedom of speech, as long as you agree with me.


51 posted on 09/24/2008 7:00:49 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: SamAdams76

Something like that.


52 posted on 09/24/2008 7:01:12 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Evidently you are brave enough to breach the contract you signed that includes the rule you object to. No sympathy. I despise HOAs and their covenants.


53 posted on 09/24/2008 7:01:15 PM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: MrChips

When the Warranty Deed was signed transferring title to the property to the Purchaser (you), there were covenants evidently attached.

BR


54 posted on 09/24/2008 7:01:26 PM PDT by Birmingham Rain (Go home, Obama.)
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To: ConorMacNessa
I'd put the sign up and let them be damned! I reserve the right to free speech and to Hell with their rinky-dink HOA!

Yes? And do you have more money for legal fees than they do? Homeowners' associations usually have a few hundred thousand in the kitty and have the power to levy assessments to pay any legal fees the association treasury can't handle. And in most jurisdictions, the courts decide in favor of the HOA because you signed documents agreeing to their rules. So your legal fees are wasted. They can take your house away from you. They have you outgunned, cowboy.

55 posted on 09/24/2008 7:01:36 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: MrChips

You want to unilaterally void the contract that you freely entered????? And you blame them?????


56 posted on 09/24/2008 7:01:55 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Birmingham Rain

“Not much you can do about it once you’ve purchased the property with the understanding that the covenants are binding by your own signature.”

Why do they have to pay property taxes, then? Let the HOA pay them!


57 posted on 09/24/2008 7:02:00 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: MrChips

Try an experiment: put up an Obama sign for a couple of days (I know, I know).

See if they direct you to take that one down.

(You do realize that I was kidding, above, right?)

I agree that homeowner associations are a pain in the butt.

However, nobody has ever been forced to buy a piece of property with covenants. That’s one reason I live in an older neighborhood and actually own my land (well, the bank owns it, but...) and own how it’s used.


58 posted on 09/24/2008 7:02:42 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: MortMan

I signed no such document.


59 posted on 09/24/2008 7:03:03 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: republicangel
It would be difficult if we were trying to sell though.

Yeah, I hear that. I have a neighbor two doors down who fights with the HOA all the time. He's a nice guy, but he needs to mow more than three times a summer.

60 posted on 09/24/2008 7:03:23 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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