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1 posted on 09/28/2008 12:30:41 AM PDT by xtinct
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I’m looking for information regarding the Acorn financing boondoggle, but see no reference to it...

I’m praying they got it dumped from this bill.


2 posted on 09/28/2008 12:34:24 AM PDT by dandelion
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ping


4 posted on 09/28/2008 12:37:56 AM PDT by djsherin
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Acorn will not be dropped I bet. This is ROTTEN to the core. Why should anyone pay the mortgage on time? If you skip a few payments they will reduce the principle. Perfect liberal mortgage banking. Anyone who votes for this should be run out of office.


5 posted on 09/28/2008 12:39:34 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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"It was not immediately clear how many House Republicans might vote for the measure. With the election five weeks away, Democrats have said they would not push a plan that appeared sharply partisan in nature."


There ya' go.

And, I didn't see anything referring to ACORN.

We shall soon see...

6 posted on 09/28/2008 12:40:37 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Sarah'cuda Rocks)
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I’m calling on some monetarists on Free Republic:

What happens in all of this to the velocity of money? I recall my undergraduate macroeconomics classes having this equation: MV = PQ, where M is the money supply, V is the velocity of money, P is the price level, and Q is real GDP.

My impression from all of the money multiplier stuff is that if lending went down, so would the velocity of money.

I’m not witnessing any massive change in M. So if V changes, does that mean we get deflation? Recession? Or is velocity somehow a constant through all of this?


7 posted on 09/28/2008 12:41:20 AM PDT by drellberg
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Believe me when I say their is a lot of hidden corruption in this bill and you and me and our children will pay and pay and pay and pay and pay and pay and their children will pay and pay and pay.........
9 posted on 09/28/2008 12:43:01 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (The Difference Between Palin and Obama is Common Sense, She's GOT IT, He DOESN'T)
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This is trouble. Now the Fed will have $700 billion worth of “bad debts” and is supposed to try to sell them back into the market over a period of years? I smell a boondoggle to come - more than one.

What incentive does the Fed have to try to make the best deal? To package a couple of dogs in with a bundle of winners? Some people will make out like bandits. A huge transfer of wealth for a few, courtesy of the Federal Reserve...

No coincidence that Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley just became bank holding companies. The SEC is useless to a street without brokerages... the Fed on the other hand will be their new best friend.


12 posted on 09/28/2008 12:48:28 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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I have seen no reports yet that ACORN would be excluded. I don’t want to even see a hint that they’ll get $.05 from this bill even through other channels. To be honest I’d like to not see this bailout happen in this manner. Newt had the best plan and EVERYONE in Washington ignored him.


20 posted on 09/28/2008 1:02:54 AM PDT by Lazarus Starr
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The article says that the chief Senate Republican in the talks, Judd Gregg, R-N.H., agreed that there was general agreement.

But the article also said it was not yet clear how the House Republicans would react.

This could be progress, or this could be a repeat of the false claims of agreement we had Thursday, when McCain announced his return to Washington.

My guess is that we get agreement, it's ugly but less so than Paulson's original 3 page outrage, and the Treasury Bill printing press overheats, but is repaired and kept running, this coming week.

Without this bill, payrolls of a few major companies that depend on commercial paper would not be met this coming Friday, and companies such as GE would have been in the ICU the following week. GM and Ford already got their rescue in the other spending bill. The stock market has been holding up (well, only falling 20 or 30 percent.) But the short term credit markets have collapsed these last two weeks, more dramatically than in anyone's memory.

The New World Order is proceeding apace -- it's currency is U.S.Treasuries. Lots of mortgage backed securities and derivatives and financial stocks currently held by major foreign nations will be swapped for Treasuries.

I predict that there will be a stock market rally Monday, which will quickly turn into either a choppy sideways market, or a violent down draft (another October crash.) Oil prices will hold reasonably close to current levels (the Saudis are voting with their petrol for McCain), recessionary signs will increase but not terribly, and McCain will win. The market will rally into sometime in January, but it will be just a bear market rally, leading into an honest recession (not a 1930's Depression -- just a recession.) Inflation will rise in the next two years as in the 1970's, but not hyperinflation. Unemployment will rise some more, as some companies don't make it through these white water rapids.

23 posted on 09/28/2008 1:09:45 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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The govt. is still going to buy up all those distressed mortgages for those who couldn't cut it at being a homeowner or investor.

This after the govt. strongarmed lenders to lend to risky homeowners in the first place. So it's going to cost nearly a trillion dollars at least and the U.S. government gains control over the mortgage industry, with kickbacks to certain Senators and God knows who else.

What a deal! I'm gaining more confidence in system with each passing second. /s

25 posted on 09/28/2008 1:16:35 AM PDT by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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Another detail is over at Mortgage help for bankrupt homeowners dropped (AP via Yahoo)
29 posted on 09/28/2008 1:24:51 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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Peloski’s happy. Reid’s happy. Frank’s happy. Dodd’s happy. Bush’s happy.

They’re not sure how many House Republicans will support the bill.

What does that tell ya?


30 posted on 09/28/2008 1:25:35 AM PDT by HarleyD
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See also the FR thread ACORN Issue Fueling Bailout Opposition (Boehner draws line in the sand on ACORN) for ACORN discussions.
31 posted on 09/28/2008 1:26:43 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced the $700 billion accord just after midnight but said it still has to be put on paper.

"We've still got more to do to finalize it, but I think we're there," said Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who also participated in the negotiations in the Capitol.

"We worked out everything," said Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., the chief Senate Republican in the talks."


Wasn't there a deal last week?

Screwballs...every one of them.

42 posted on 09/28/2008 1:41:52 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Sarah'cuda Rocks)
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I wonder if the Members will see the actual bill language before the vote, much less the rest of us?


54 posted on 09/28/2008 1:50:41 AM PDT by Truth29
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Technique-get 9 "in-your-face-democrats" bring in 2 unsuspecting republicans, put them in a sensory deprivation room with no contacts to the outside, and begin to wear them down. Look at the hour, my friends....literally 3:00am eastern standard time. What a way to spend $700 billion dollars and ruin a country.
59 posted on 09/28/2008 2:02:27 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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And we are supposed to trust these shysters?



All smiles - Nancy Pelosi, Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson, right,
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, second left, and Sen. Judd Gregg, left,
announce a tentative deal on legislation regarding the financial crisis on
Sunday on Capitol Hill in Washington.

69 posted on 09/28/2008 2:45:54 AM PDT by XR7
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPSDnGMzIdo


71 posted on 09/28/2008 2:56:03 AM PDT by XR7
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Although ACORN may be visually taken out of the bill , rest assured it is in there in another form with a ton of other sh## these criminals in congress are trying to shuv down our throats. How does it feel American taxpayer to be known as an a## hole by the very representatives you voted into office to protect your rights! IM SICK!


72 posted on 09/28/2008 3:17:23 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (IF YOU ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE BY 35 YOU HAVE NO BRAIN. W CHURCHILL)
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So if the Treasury can renegotiate the mortgages down to what the Alt-A borrowers can now pay...does this mean taxpayers will get less ROI than simply foreclosing and liquidating the equity?

Doesn’t that prop up housing prices artificially...again? Making housing unaffordable for millions of honest Americans...again? Sounds like the whole rotten CRA itself is getting a bailout here, not just the private companies who got screwed by it.


73 posted on 09/28/2008 3:53:44 AM PDT by cmj328
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