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To: BarnacleCenturion
America has become a socialist nation and it has been in evolution toward that goal for many, many years.

We arrived at the present point because fewer and fewer people want to accept ANY responsibility for the problems in their lives. Government has become the solution of FIRST resort.

When a hurricane hits, it's government's fault and responsibility.

When we need medicine or health care, it's government's fault and responsibility.

When we can't afford to buy a house and make the mortgage payments, it's government's fault and responsibility.

If we can't find a job, it's government's fault and responsibility.

When we run up our credit card debt, it's government's fault and responsibility.

...and ON AND ON.

McCain's socialist leanings and his Republican primary success are not the disease. They are simply the symptoms of the disease.

We are the enemy we despise.

"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - John Adams

20 posted on 10/12/2008 6:38:58 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: everyone
FWIW, I posted from a European perspective about the way McCain has run this campaign.
This past few weeks has been very disheartening from a Conservative standpoint.
I posted on FR last week about my dismay about the lack of attack from McCain towards Obama about the housing, and consequently the credit market crash, and the roots of the problem within Freddie - Fannie and the democratic pressures under Clinton.

Following McCain through his speeches regarding a solution to the credit issues has left me amazed.
I stayed up half the night last week to watch the debate between McCain and Obama live on TV, and was left dumbstruck.

Apart from a vague tongue in cheek slant towards Obama about the origins of the credit crisis, and lets be frank here, the crisis created all over the World by Liberal policy, there was nothing, no substance at all from McCain.

I have to say, from my perspective, with the information at my disposal, I feel McCain has given this election away with his 'on the fence' policies.
Hell, even Obama in that debate spoke stronger on the issue of Bin Laden.

Sorry guys, I hate to say this, but as a raging Conservative here in Europe, McCain looks like he either compromised his values in order to seem more attractive to centre voters, or alternatively, he doesn't seem to fully understand where his loyalties lie.

If any politician here in Europe, right now, spoke out against underpinning a corrupt financial system, they'd be onto an absolute winner.
I think if McCain had done the same, he'd possibly have been home and dry.

As it stands, I can't see a way that McCain could possibly convince swing voters, I'm a supporter of McCain/Palin (I prefer Palin TBH), and I can't get to grips with McCain after the past few weeks.

I can't even start to imagine how things are going to be in the World if Obama gets into the hotseat, it's a scenario that is a frightening contemplation.

God Bless Us
38 posted on 10/12/2008 7:03:10 AM PDT by Lilith Incubus
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you're always going to have the support of Paul."~ somebody famous

In the "good old days" if your "Hope" was in government, you were a "hopeless" person ! Not anymore.

42 posted on 10/12/2008 7:10:29 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Another poster who exhibits wisdom and insightful lessons about Americans of today and what they have devolved into. I’d only add that after the war (the big one) people started moving out to the suburbs by the droves and told everyone else to not bother them with staying involved with Washington and local politics. They pretty soon developed a jaded view that their vote no longer mattered and they didn’t have time to vote anymore and they (and we) have finally arrived at that fatalistic and prophetic point in time. The Bible says that we shall reap what we sow.


67 posted on 10/12/2008 7:50:28 AM PDT by Ron H. (October 3, 2008 - the day we morphed into the 'United Socialist States of America')
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority; bamahead
McCain's socialist leanings and his Republican primary success are not the disease. They are simply the symptoms of the disease.

Bump

115 posted on 10/12/2008 10:41:46 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Baldwin/Castle '08 - Gilmore for Senator from Virginia '08)
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