Posted on 10/14/2008 8:19:20 AM PDT by Stingray
How did he get the other citizenship? Parentage or birth location? if the latter, then he is ineligible.
Problem is, nobody can prove where he was actually born.
Yes, and nobody can prove that he’s not a Muslim, either.
Sharia Law, here we come! It’s going to get snuck into the next socialist bailout bill, you watch.
I’m frightened.
Exactly. They can’t. That’s why this story was planted and they allowed a sufficient amount of time to pass, then FactCheck steps in and provides the “spin”.
See? It was all just a simple misunderstanding. /sarc
Depending on when you were born, you don’t even need to take an oath.
My youngest Daughter was born in Germany, and all we had to do was fill out a form and send it in. And we did that 3 years after she was born. Another thing, if the Mother had a passport with a picture of her and the child, that was also acceptable as proof of citizenship.
0bama has provided none of these things we’ve mentioned.
Naturalized not the same as natural born.
Try entering “Larry Sinclair” as a search criterion into FactCheck.org. Or “Sinclair Beau Biden”....
You’re all forgetting one important thing, this is all fine IF and only IF he truly was born in Hawaii and not Kenya and without a legitimate birth certificate the case will continue to advance through the courts.
It was the former, which means Obama is not ineligible.
Problem is, nobody can prove where he was actually born.
What you mean is nobody can prove Obama was not born in Hawaii as he says he was. Which presents a bit of a problem, wouldn't you say? If he wasn't born in Hawaii then there'd be some evidence of that.
To win this lawsuit, all BHO has to do is present to the judge a certified birth certificate attesting to his birth in Hawaii. He has this certificate, we know this because he posted it. Why then does BHO (or the DNC?) hire a team of attorneys to fight this lawsuit on technical grounds and not take the easy way out, by turning over his birth certificate to the Judge?
Such as his Kenyan grandmother stating that she was at his birth in Kenya?
Because legally then don't have to provide the birth certificate. And the won't have to unless the judge orders it. But let's turn it around. To win his suit all Berg has to do is provide concrete proof that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. Why can't he do that?
Prior to this Philip Berg was spending his time trying to prove that George Bush and Dick Cheney knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance, if they didn't help plan them to begin with. You'll forgive me if I don't consider Berg much of a legal genius. It's based on his past performance.
Amendment XIV
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside...
Article 2 specifically addresses that to be eligible for PoTUS, you must be at least 35 years old, resided in this country for at least 14 years, and be a "natural born citizen" (or a citizen at the time of adoption of the Constitution, which no one alive today could claim).
The 14th Amendment only refers to requirements to be a citizen, and the protections and rights such citizenship offers.
Dual citizenship is not recognized by Article 2, Section 1, only one who is a "natural born citizen", providing all other conditions are equally met, is eligible to run for and/or hold the office of PoTUS.
No, such as documents supporting his birth in Kenya. If Obama's grandmother got up and said she was at his birth in Honolulu then would you drop the entire matter as settled once and for all? Some how I doubt that, you quite rightly want to see the offical documents. So let's put the same burden on both sides. If Obama was born in Kenya then there would be a paper trail at the State Department documenting his return to the U.S., never mind some sort of birth documentation in Kenya. Find it and you've nailed Obama.
Although that may be true, it is not logical. The route Obama has chosen is expensive, time consuming and a distraction.
Any competent Attorney will advise that you should take the path of least resistance. Win your case with minimum cost and damage. Producing a BC would do it.
As to Berg's past, that does not have a bearing on his possibly being right in this case.
But assuming Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims, then he is a natural born citizen under the 14th Amendment and Constitutionally qualified to be president. The fact that he may have once held dual citizenship, or even if he currently holds dual citizenship, does not disqualify him from being president. Nothing in the Constitution prohibits it.
A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth. U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another.
The information you cited is from a site that deals specifically with international travel, and makes no distinction between a "natural born citizen" and a "naturalized" one. It only talks about citizenship.
Article 2 Section 1, on the other hand, does address the requirements of being eligible for the presidency of this country quite specifically.
But it's the same route that McCain's people followed fighting a similar case brought against them in California. Their position was that the plaintiff had no standing to file, and the judge eventually agreed and tossed out the suit. Now McCain's people could have won on legal grounds, but had they done so it would have lent credibility to Robinson's suit that it didn't deserve. Obama's people are treating is the same way, a nuisance lawsuit that has no business being in the courts. And the only way they're going to produce document one is if the judge orders it. And that's as it should be.
As to Berg's past, that does not have a bearing on his possibly being right in this case.
No, but it does provide evidence of what kind of mind we're dealing with.
Here ya go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw
It is official USG policy. It was in response to a question about Obama having held Indonesian citizenship at one time.
Article 2 Section 1, on the other hand, does address the requirements of being eligible for the presidency of this country quite specifically
That is a whole different matter. If Obama, as claimed, was born in Hawaii, he is a natural born citizen eligible to be President.
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