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McCain: Ayers will come up in debate
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Posted on 10/14/2008 8:51:01 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Revolting cat!

Sadly, Obama knows where all the bodies are buried. He will be prepared to lie about each of them.

But heck, bring Odinga on.

Really the only way you can even force the media to comment on this stuff is to make them comment on it after the debate.

On MSNBC today, the Morning Joe was calling attention to Obama’s radical alliances unfortunate.

As if it is so unseemly to even bring it up. Sick!


61 posted on 10/14/2008 9:30:04 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Sub-Driver

This seems just so simple.

“A president is largely successful by having a highly qualified group of individuals that can advise him on critical policy issues.

You all have heard about some of Sen Obama’s past and present associates: Revs Wright and Pfleger, William Ayers, Bernadette Dorn, (add to list). All of them have records that make them inappropriate to advise a US president. Does Sen Obama have any associates who are qualified to work in the best interests of this country? I haven’t heard any names. All of the people that are close to Sen Obama are dangerous to our republic. Do you want a person with those associations to lead our country in these uncertain times?”


62 posted on 10/14/2008 9:30:29 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: rom

We can wish in one hand and....in the other but it ain’t gonna’ happen. And even if it does, I’m afraid it’s too late. The media will paint it as desperation, and it is, and those on the fence will not believe anything he says.


63 posted on 10/14/2008 9:30:48 AM PDT by Terry Mross (O)
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To: Mr. K

I would recommend Rocky Balboa’s theory when he fought Clubber Lang. If you recall, Rocky just kept jabbin and jabbin while taking some punches and remaining steadfast he got Clubber to a point where he went into a complete rage and abandoned his entire strategy. Clubber also exhausted himself because he couldn’t land any punches. Just needle him and needle, him. Every man has a breaking point and Obama looks so totally drained these days, if McCain does this right, he can provoke the real Obama to emerge for all to see! hahahahahahahahaha (evil laugh)


64 posted on 10/14/2008 9:31:39 AM PDT by Miss_Liberty
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To: allmendream

How about McCain says “I spent a lot of time up close and personal with Communists. And so has Senator 0bama.”

Now you are talking. How about adding active or such? And indicate they are not mere associations but ALLIANCES, re: Thomas Sowell.

You are most certainly on the right track. The Left would go absolutely nuts.


65 posted on 10/14/2008 9:35:27 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Miss_Liberty

Symbolic of tomorrow’s debate (we can only hope hope hope!!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssBeqOxPGmg&feature=related


66 posted on 10/14/2008 9:36:07 AM PDT by Miss_Liberty
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To: jersey117

Radical alliances my FRiend, not associations. Per Thomas Sowell’s excellent article.


67 posted on 10/14/2008 9:37:02 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Sub-Driver
Personally, I'd let it go. I'm telling you, the average voter just doesn't care and it probably hurts McCain more than helps him.

Learn from the mistakes of Kerry : run for the presidency, not against your opponent. Obama is running for president, and McCain is running against Obama.

That's my take on it.
68 posted on 10/14/2008 9:39:03 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
Yeah, the Ayers thing is working so well for him.

Yes, it has been working.I don't know what makes you think it hasn't. The thing that is not working is when he backs off and make statements that tells us not to be sacred of Obama as President. Every time he brings up Ayers, or Acorn or Wright,the dems scream their heads off. They are screaming today about Sarah bringing up the fact she loves America. Any time they scream it means McCain/Palin are hitting the mark.

69 posted on 10/14/2008 9:44:19 AM PDT by calex59
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To: dead

Obamama is taunting McCain into bringing Ayers up. He would only do that if he believes he has some fantastic comeback to slam back at McCain. McCain better be ready for it...


This could help McCain prepare for such a comeback:


SOWELL: The real Obama

"Critics of Sen. Barack Obama make a strategic mistake when they talk about his "past associations." That just gives his many defenders in the media an opportunity to counterattack against "guilt by association."

We all have associations, whether at the office, in our neighborhood or in various recreational activities. Most of us neither know nor care what our associates believe or say about politics.

Associations are very different from alliances. Allies are not just people who happen to be where you are or to be doing the same things you do. You choose allies deliberately for a reason. The kind of allies you choose says something about you.

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Pfleger, William Ayers and Antoin Rezko are not just people who happened to be at the same place at the same time as Barack Obama. They are people with whom he chose to ally himself for years, and with some of whom serious money changed hands.

Some gave political support, and some gave financial support, to Mr. Obama's election campaigns, and Mr. Obama in turn contributed either his own money or the taxpayers' money to some of them. That is a familiar political alliance - but an alliance is not just an "association" from being at the same place at the same time.

Mr. Obama could have allied himself with all sorts of other people. But, time and again, he allied himself with people who openly expressed their hatred of America. No amount of flags on his campaign platforms this election year can change that...

The story of Mr. Obama's political career is not pretty. He won his first political victory by being the only candidate on the ballot - after hiring someone skilled at disqualifying the signers of opposing candidates' petitions, on whatever technicality he could devise.

Despite his words today about "change" and "cleaning up the mess in Washington," Mr. Obama was not on the side of reformers trying to change the status quo of corrupt, machine politics in Chicago and clean up the mess there. Mr. Obama came out in favor of the Daley machine and against reform candidates.

Sen. Barack Obama is running on an image directly the opposite of what he has been doing for two decades. His escapes from his past have been as remarkable as the great escapes of Houdini.

Why much of the public and the media have been so mesmerized by the words and the image of Mr. Obama, and so little interested in learning about the factual reality, was perhaps best explained by an official of the Democratic Party: "People don't come to Obama for what he's done; they come because of what they hope he can be..."



70 posted on 10/14/2008 9:47:12 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Miss_Liberty

71 posted on 10/14/2008 9:49:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Sub-Driver

and racist Wright while you’re at it..


72 posted on 10/14/2008 9:50:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (I believe the undead mainstream media poses a bigger threat to us than radical Islam..)
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To: jersey117

McCain shares neither our enthusiasm to expose Obama nor the will to “fight” as he asks us to.

It’s utterly ridiculous but he’s focused on how the media will view him later.
As a loser.

Entirely misguided.


73 posted on 10/14/2008 9:55:47 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: babydubya1981; All

McCain and his team need to STUDY and memorize Thomas Sowell’s great column explaining why it’s foolish to talk merely about “associations” — McCain & co. must explain to the public that Obama has spent his adult life in a series of shady political ALLIANCES with his radical ideological soulmates.

Unless people understand how deeply all these scumbags reflect Obama’s own life, beliefs, and ideological commitments it becomes just a “guilt by association” debate, and everyone can think of a couple of shady characters they have met in their lives. The explanation of how Obama welcomed and embraced close ALLIANCES with assorted scumbags is what needs to be detailed for all to see.

If McCain merely takes a lame shot or two that Obama can deflect then it’s worse then saying nothing, b/c then the media story becomes that Obama has “answered” all such allegations. Of course that’s b.s., but that’s how the media game is played for leftists, and McCain had better be careful not to provide Obama with innoculation rather than exposure.


74 posted on 10/14/2008 9:58:00 AM PDT by Enchante (America: has Obama told you about his "New Party" that sought to spread SOCIALISM??)
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To: lawdave

I hope he simply asks, “can you imagine the outrage if I launched my political career at the home of a KKK member, or associated with abortion clinic bombers even if I was only 8??...can you imagine that senator bambi???”


75 posted on 10/14/2008 10:01:32 AM PDT by jackv
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To: Sub-Driver
“I am surprised that, you know, we've been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn't willing to say it to my face,” Obama said. “But I guess we've got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate.”

Over-the-top? Hardly!!! McCain needs to bring up Ayers, the tax issue, the abortion issue, the "spreading the wealth" issue....OVER AND OVER AND OVER again!!! McCain hasn't even GOTTEN to the top, IMO, let alone over it. And instead of rehashing the same talking points that everyone has already heard again and again, McCain needs to come out literally swinging and striking Obama DOWN at every turn. Dammit!!!!
76 posted on 10/14/2008 10:08:47 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Do as I say, not as I panic.)
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To: kAcknor

“Whether it’s good or not to bring up Ayers, WHY does it seem a good idea to McCain to telegraph the punch?
Surprise and shock are wonderful effects, telling your opponent what you are going to do before hand is NOT.”

It’s in the instructions included in the Acme “Master Debater” Kit that Wile E. McCain just got in the mail.


77 posted on 10/14/2008 10:12:36 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (Joe Biden behind a microphone is like Ted Kennedy behind a steering wheel)
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To: Sub-Driver

He had also better talk about ACORN, Wright, and Odinga.


78 posted on 10/14/2008 10:15:33 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Enchante

McCain and his team need to STUDY and memorize Thomas Sowell’s great column explaining why it’s foolish to talk merely about “associations” — McCain & co. must explain to the public that Obama has spent his adult life in a series of shady political ALLIANCES with his radical ideological soulmates...


BTTT

79 posted on 10/14/2008 10:16:16 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Sub-Driver

All War is based on deception.

Those words are bouncing around in my head right now. I cannot image that McCain would be so stupid as to fall for that “macho” crap. Everyone knows he’s not a coward.

However, anyone in a war also knows that its OK to kick a guy in the groin if it means you get to stay alive.

Fake high, go low.


80 posted on 10/14/2008 10:17:09 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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