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To: Reagan Man

doooooooooooooooooooooooooomed


3 posted on 10/14/2008 9:05:58 AM PDT by rdax
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To: rdax
It is only over when the announcement of who is the President elect is made. Until then, all this means is that Obama has a lead in the polls.

Some issues i have been having with FR lately:

i) Confusing peripheral issues (no matter how major they may be, such as Ayers) with the core issues (in this election it is the economy).

ii) Going into 'woe-is-me' mode whenever Obama is ahead in the polls. Again, there is only one poll that matters. Obama being ahead only means that people supporting other candidates (in this case Sarah Palin ...oh, I mean John McCain) need to get off their butts and hit the turf! Only one poll matters, and it is still 3 weeks away.

iii) Acting like McCain is invincible (the other end of the spectrum from those in number 2). He is not, and he can easily lose. To stop him from losing, get off your butt and hit the turf with those in number 2.

iv) Finally, allowing the Republican party to devolve into a state whereby the Republican nominee is a bleeding heart liberal like McCain! Sure, we have no choice this time. But the moment McCain (if he gets elected, or if he does not get elected), Conservatives need to take over their party back! This should be the last election that people allow themselves to settle for a mediocre choice. It is time that true Conservative (note: big C) values come to the fore-front, and i am not talking about a selective number (e.g. people seem to oscillate these days only on guns and abortion. Sure, those are VERY important, but so is SMALL GOVERNMENT, and so is FISCAL CONSERVATISM). Apparently we have lost all notion of the last two (to be honest George W Bush is one of the most liberal presidents ever ....at the very least more liberal than any I can think of. The fact that he took of N.Korea from the Axis of Evil, plus the level of growth in Government and fiscal irresponsibility, means that the ONLY THING making his presidency not to be the worst EVER is that there has been no terrorist attack since 9/11. If terrorists were to attack tomorrow, then Bush's legacy would have no positive. Well ...there would still be the positive of the judges). We need to have strong Conservatives for the next election cycle, and whether McCain wins or not we need to ensure that Conservatives do their part. If a few jaded Liberals who are angry that Hillary lost can start a movement that threatens Obama, then organized FReepers can start a move to re-take the Republican party (please forget about 3rd parties ...in this day and age they are lost votes).

Anyways, it is up to you guys. Personally I cannot even vote (not a citizen), but if you people just sit and 'bloviate' then you can be sure that the US will go to hell in a hand basket. However, focused action, no matter how slow, always lead to gains.

That is the Conservative way!

Or else one of the best exports of the US (apart from manufacturing jobs and the like) will be true Conservatism to other countries, while the US falls into a socialism cesspool.

50 posted on 10/14/2008 9:18:45 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: rdax
You are right of course, barring Deus ex Machina, the McCain campaign is doomed. Therefore, it is time to start thinking about cutting McCain adrift before the election but after defeat is recognized to be inevitable. It is too soon now but the time is not far. Sometime between this last debate and election Day both the Republican Party and the conservative movement must set themselves free from the taint of the McCain campaign, its screwball economic policies, and its leftward lurchings.

This is necessary for the survival of the conservative movement and the Republican Party which are destined to go into the political wilderness whence it might never emerge as something we recognize. We must salvage the conservative movement if we are to rescue the Republic.

As to the ethics of this proposal, neither the Republican Party nor the conservative movement owes John McCain a damn thing. There is nothing in his Senate career to warrant our loyalty to the point of suicide. Sadly, he has not conducted a campaign-apart from the appointment of Sarah Palin- in fealty to conservative principles.

The obvious spokesman for the party right now and at the time of the eclipse of John McCain is Rush Limbaugh. He is the only national figure who can gain national attention. When it becomes clear that McCain's bid is forlorn it will be time for the Captain to order abandon ship. If this is not done it will leave the conservative movement bearing the blame for this loss and for the coming economic recession. We will not be able to nominate a conservative, and no Republican will be able to win a general election under these circumstances.

If John McCain had fought this out as a conservative we would be morally bound to go down with him but, alas, he has not.


72 posted on 10/14/2008 9:36:12 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: rdax

Get a grip.

Its Obama pollster group Quinninpac !


97 posted on 10/14/2008 9:56:07 AM PDT by ncalburt
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