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Biden Defies Pope and Bishops:Now He is Pro-Gay Marriage
Catholic League For Religious and Civil Rights ^ | October 21, 2008 | Susan A. Fan, i Director of Communications

Posted on 10/21/2008 8:21:23 AM PDT by adc

On today’s episode of “Ellen,” Joe Biden told Ellen DeGeneres “that if I lived in California, I would vote against Proposition 8.” This initiative reads, “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” Yet in his debate with Sarah Palin on October 2, Biden said that “Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage.”

Catholic League president Bill Donohue weighed in on this today:

“Proposition 8 is a civil initiative that would secure marriage as an institution that is exclusively between a man and a woman, and Joe Biden told Ellen DeGeneres that he is opposed to that measure. In other words, Biden did not tell the truth in his debate with Sarah Palin. He cannot logically be opposed to both gay marriage and Proposition 8, but that is exactly what he is trying to get away with. More important, Biden is openly defying both the pope and the bishops.

“Last year, in his Apostolic Exhortation Sacramentum Caritatis, Pope Benedict XVI pointedly said the following about people like Joe Biden: ‘Worship pleasing to God can never be a purely private matter…it is especially incumbent upon those who, by virtue of their social or political position, must make decisions regarding fundamental values such as respect for human life, its defence from conception to natural death, the family built upon marriage between a man and a woman....These values are not negotiable.’ (My emphasis.)

“Last year, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops issued Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship wherein it said that the family based on marriage between a man and a woman ‘should be defended and strengthened, not redefined or undermined by permitting same-sex unions or other distortions of marriage.’

“Biden is in a major jam. He needs to hold a press conference explaining his irreconcilable moral positions, and why he has chosen to defy the pope and the bishops.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008vpdebate; bidenflipflop; ca2008; catholicpoliticians; flipflop; hillary; homosexualagenda; joethegaffer; liedtoamerica; lyingliar; monkeywrench; obamabots; prop8; samesexmarriage
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Two days in a row. He's beginning to self-destruct.
1 posted on 10/21/2008 8:21:23 AM PDT by adc
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To: adc

When does he get excommunicated?


2 posted on 10/21/2008 8:23:21 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: adc

Yeah, I’m beginning to wonder if the Clinton’s don’t have something major and The Two. He just keeps sticking his foot in it...


3 posted on 10/21/2008 8:24:32 AM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: adc

So this was another lie he told in the 2008 debate.


4 posted on 10/21/2008 8:24:53 AM PDT by weegee (In honor of Joe the Plumber, at noon, we should all lower our trousers to half mast.)
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To: adc

Wow, imagine that. Just a few weeks ago when he and Gov. Palin debated, he stated that he was AGAINST gay marriage.

This guy really can’t engage his mouth and brain simultaneously.


5 posted on 10/21/2008 8:25:15 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: adc
He's beginning to self-destruct.

No, that process began on his ascension to Congress...if not before. Exposure through the campaign has simply heightened the affect.

6 posted on 10/21/2008 8:25:31 AM PDT by bcsco (Palin started her political career in a small town, Obama from the house of a domestic terrorist.)
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To: Quix

The USCCB must move on this. . . it is an outrage.


7 posted on 10/21/2008 8:25:59 AM PDT by adc (Rush '08All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently oppos)
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To: adc

Remarkable. Positively remarkable.

Mr. Biden has so many reasons to be humble(as we all should be), but he just doesn’t see them.

When, one wonders, will Mr. Biden endorse the idea of our marrying our pets and animals?

Is nothing sacred to this man?

Apparently not.


8 posted on 10/21/2008 8:26:38 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: adc

Whoa...this is classic Joe, The Biden.

He’s just biden his time til he changes his position again...


9 posted on 10/21/2008 8:26:54 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: weegee

Exactly, he lied like a rug during that debate.


10 posted on 10/21/2008 8:26:57 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: bcsco

What I mean is purposely self-destruct.


11 posted on 10/21/2008 8:28:13 AM PDT by adc (Rush '08All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently oppos)
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By his own action(s) Joe 'Hold My Brain Please' Biden has excommunicated himself.

So have fun in Hell Joe, there's a special wing for Democrats. You and fatso Ted Kennedy can sit around and reminisce about the 'good old days'.

12 posted on 10/21/2008 8:31:02 AM PDT by Condor51 (The only difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh is the body count!)
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To: adc

He clearly lacks both principle and faith. No man or woman would support both abortion and homosexual marriage if they were truly principled and a person of faith.

That speaks volumes about what kind of people Obama, Biden, Kennedy, et al are. Their personal ambition trumps everything else.


13 posted on 10/21/2008 8:31:11 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (u)
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Where is the Vatican on this?

They should be publicly announcing that Biden is no longer allowed to take Communion.

I wonder if Obama is going to lock Biden up in a sound-proof room after saying things like this.

14 posted on 10/21/2008 8:31:40 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: adc

15 posted on 10/21/2008 8:32:37 AM PDT by timestax ( too)
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To: Quix; adc

It is sort of sad really...that he is trying to “gain the world while losing his soul”. Making the world and government and power his god, then when the day of reckoning comes, all that will be stripped away.


16 posted on 10/21/2008 8:32:47 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: PhilosopherStones
I think Hillary is secretly throwing monkeywrenches into the Obama campaign via Joe Biden and Madeline Albright.

They are merely two people on the surface.

Heaven knows what's really going on behind closed doors.

I can only imagine what else Hillary might be up to when it comes to ruining the Obama campaign.

17 posted on 10/21/2008 8:33:06 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: adc

He’ll just send in a big donation and he will be able to continue calling himself a Catholic.


18 posted on 10/21/2008 8:35:03 AM PDT by demsux
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To: adc

Keep talkin’ Joe. You’re the best Republican ad ever and you’re free.


19 posted on 10/21/2008 8:36:17 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: adc

As an RC outsider, sure seems like it to me.


20 posted on 10/21/2008 8:39:12 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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