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How Internal Battles Divided the McCain and Palin Camps
NY Times ^

Posted on 11/05/2008 8:53:08 PM PST by mathwhizz

Advisers in the McCain campaign, in suggesting that Palin advisers had been leaking damaging information about the McCain campaign to the news media, said they were particularly suspicious of Randy Scheunemann, Mr. McCain’s top foreign policy aide who had a central role in preparing Ms. Palin for the vice-presidential debate.

As a result, two senior members of the McCain campaign said on Wednesday that Mr. Scheunemann had been fired from the campaign in its final days. But Rick Davis, the McCain campaign manager, and Mr. Salter, one of Mr. McCain’s closest advisers, said Wednesday that Mr. Scheunemann had in fact not been dismissed. Mr. Scheunemann, who picked up the phone in his office at McCain campaign headquarters on Wednesday afternoon, responded that “anybody who says I was fired is either lying or delusional or a whack job.”

Mr. Scheunemann was referring to widely disseminated criticism by Mr. McCain’s advisers in the final days of the campaign that Ms. Palin, as first reported in Politico, was a “whack job.”

Whatever the permutations, the advisers said they strongly believed that Mr. Scheunemann was disclosing, as one put it, “a constant stream of poison” to William Kristol, the editor of the conservative Weekly Standard and a columnist for The New York Times.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: mccain; palin; randyscheunemann; scheunemann
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To: org.whodat

Being a “flag bearer” has nothing to do with winning primaries. It simply means being able to help our cause and get our message out effectively.

Some choose to take on a leadership role in that endeavor. My hope is that Gov. Palin, Gov. Jindal, and others such as Rep. Ryan and Mike Steele will do just that.

If you fit that definition, you are a flag bearer, as am I. The more flag bearers we have, the more our message gets out and the more our cause will be taken seriously.

I wave our flag constantly and consistently to the best of my ability.


61 posted on 11/05/2008 9:26:55 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: mathwhizz

I find a lot of what’s in this article to be very questionable. I listened to Carl Cameron’s report on Brit Hume’s show tonight. According to him, Palin has been asking questions about the New Hampshire primary, as well as other Presidential election schedules. She herself said this was a positive experience for her. If things were as bad as the NY Slimes and others are making it out to be, I highly doubt the girl would be looking for information about a possible run in the future.


62 posted on 11/05/2008 9:27:24 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

i agree. and after actually hearing her and other people that i trust talk about her(hannity, gretta, cindy mccain) i find this stuff to be completely out there!


63 posted on 11/05/2008 9:31:11 PM PST by lnzog
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To: mrsmel

I do not believe this fight is over.

We need to go after the real culprits here: the press.
They are the right hand of the socialists; without them
their campaign of lies just lays there. The press gives
them their energy, their life.

We need to know where these people live, etc.. From there,
we may level the playing field.


64 posted on 11/05/2008 9:32:29 PM PST by Loud Mime (We need new leaders; it is time to look in the mirror!)
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To: mathwhizz

I believe the McCain insiders are in major CYA mode here. They knew the effed up when they kept Sarah from doing what she does best and that is retail politics. The botched interviews that should have been done live on the networks or informal to get her used to the national limelight. To the way they made her read from a teleprompter hurt her and you could tell she wasn’t happy about it.

I think she need to run again for Governor and skip 2012. The odds are Obama will get relected because the chances are the economy will be preceived as being better then even tough it might not be the robust numbers we’ve had the earlier part of this decade and the 90’s or 80’s. Realistically 2016 is going to be our next best shot because Biden will be in his 70’s and he will be like a McCain type vs someone on ourside that will be young (hopefully) and fresh. That would give Sarah plenty of time to travel the world to meet foreign leaders like Governors do on trade missions for their states. She could get to know more of the movers and shakers in the party.


65 posted on 11/05/2008 9:33:59 PM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Well, McCain is your guy there in Arizona....I’m sure you wanted him too.


66 posted on 11/05/2008 9:34:25 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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this is all kinda silly....lets look at some of the comparisons

Mccain was the worst...his bizarre “suspend his campaign stunt”...defending Obama at HIS OWN RALLYS!...I could go on and on with the things he did.

Biden?...i lost track of the idiotic gaffes and admissions this guy made.

Obama actually caught on tape and in person admitting his Marxist- socialist beliefs

Hillary Clinton flat out lying about being under attack by snipers and having to apoligize in public...

But Sarah Palin answering a prank phone call and buying clothes!!..She easily outperformed any of em..her crowds were consistently bigger than all of em. She is a fascinating politician who years from now will be a force..i have no doubt.


67 posted on 11/05/2008 9:36:15 PM PST by basalt
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To: mrsmel

Alaska definitely should secede; they could then drill their oil and make themselves as rich as Saudi. I wouldn’t mind spending the remainder of my days under a free flag and with real people whose only ideas of socialism is a dance. Unless we physically revolt all is lost in the lower 48. I fear we no longer have the will to fight the tyranny of the nanny state. Today’s “loyal opposition” are tomorrow’s political prisoners.


68 posted on 11/05/2008 9:37:47 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Amen.

Here’s a good night laugh for everyone from Reagan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUbwnkEPqc


69 posted on 11/05/2008 9:43:17 PM PST by Caper29
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To: mathwhizz

Unless someone comes forward under their own name I am calling BS on this one. Oh and the prank call? Whos the idiot who gave the phone to Palin and told her it was from the leader of France?


70 posted on 11/05/2008 9:43:31 PM PST by linn37
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To: papasmurf

Don’t let .org get to you. Your doing a fine job talking for me. Obama will never carry my flag. It would fly from his evil grasp! Up Sarah!


71 posted on 11/05/2008 9:46:05 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: mathwhizz
...two senior members of the McCain campaign said on Wednesday that Mr. Scheunemann had been fired from the campaign in its final days. But Rick Davis, the McCain campaign manager, and Mr. Salter, one of Mr. McCain’s closest advisers, said Wednesday that Mr. Scheunemann had in fact not been dismissed. Mr. Scheunemann, who picked up the phone in his office at McCain campaign headquarters on Wednesday afternoon, responded that “anybody who says I was fired is either lying or delusional or a whack job.”

Somebody is lying. And if it's not the New York Times doing the lying (that paper never deserves the benefit of the doubt), then McCain's campaign was even more of a mess than most people imagined.

72 posted on 11/05/2008 9:48:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Loud Mime

Thanks for your reply. You are exactly right.


73 posted on 11/05/2008 9:51:56 PM PST by Rightone
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To: Albion Wilde

The real story of this campaign will be how absolutely terrible the female candidates were ultimately treated by the press and the party establishments.


74 posted on 11/05/2008 9:53:10 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: org.whodat

And yours, org.whodat, is a snotty, elitist statement worthy of Peggy Noonan or Kathleen Parker. Education is not the same as wisdom. By the way, there should be a comma or a dash between “expected” and “an”.


75 posted on 11/05/2008 9:58:03 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: headstamp 2

I was totally amazed. If people in the private sector were so openly sexist at best they would have to attend classes to mend their ways. Likely they would be fired. The media and politicians acted as though it was fine to behave so badly.


76 posted on 11/05/2008 9:58:15 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: mathwhizz

I was singularly unimpressed with any of the candidates’ appreciation of history and current events, but was sorely disappointed at Carl Cameron’s reportage on Fix News. Sarah was, if anything, near the best of them. Even if the rumor about her ignorance of the geopolitics of South Africa were true, it would pale beside Barack Obama’s utter cluelessness about the language(s) spoken in Afghanistan (a faraway country of which he knows little, but in which we are actually fighting a war of which he will shortly be the (clueless?) commander-in-chief), and Biden’s bizarre assertion that we had drven Hezbollah out of Lebanon.

I’ll take Sarah. She’s a whole bunch smarter than these “smart fellows” seem to be.


77 posted on 11/05/2008 10:01:32 PM PST by troglodyte (troglodyte)
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To: mathwhizz

The Obamanation trying to smear her ahead of 2012...”organise” early!


78 posted on 11/05/2008 10:03:29 PM PST by tuckrdout (~ 'Daily example is the most subtle of poisons.' ~)
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To: mrsmel

McCain didn’t have the support of his own party either.


79 posted on 11/05/2008 10:05:16 PM PST by tuckrdout (~ 'Daily example is the most subtle of poisons.' ~)
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To: Dionysius

I’m not. I actually like his posts, it’s just a high level of frustration going on right now.

Thanks for the support, though.


80 posted on 11/05/2008 10:09:55 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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