McCain T-shirt gets man cuffed, stuffed 'Don't tell him no more, lock him up,' police say

World Net Daily ^ | 11-08-08 | Bob Unruh

[444Flyer]

A man wearing a McCain-Palin T-shirt during a Philadelphia celebration on election night was arrested, cuffed and stuffed into a police cruiser, and supporters said it was for no more than wearing the endorsement of the GOP nominees for president and vice-president. Although the man protested that he didn't want to cause any trouble, officers manhandled and arrested him, the video posted on YouTube shows.

[Mojave]

I saw him being detained. I didn’t hear him being told that he was under arrest. It would be interesting to see the police report.

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Under “Dear Leader” we can expect to see several more “Waco” scenarios play out as dissenters will be arrested and those who resist will be taken by force.

[nathanbedford]

The rights of political free speech, or any free speech for that matter, cannot depend on the subjective reaction of the listener. Speech, by definition, needs to be protected only when it is offensive. Inoffensive speech needs no protection either from society or from the government. If you set up the test that opponents of that speech can invoke the police power and silence it merely by causing a commotion, you have just eliminated all free speech.

[444Flyer]

I watched all last week on my local news as protesters of Proposition 8 (NO on Gay “Marriage” which passed) literally took to the streets and shut down major thoroughfares throughout the Los Angeles area. Thousands of these people were allowed to block traffic during rush hour one day with barely any arrests. Do you think you or I would get away with standing in the middle of a busy intersection blocking traffic to protest? They were endangering themselves and others but it was referred to as a “peaceful protest”.

[ApplegateRanch]

swore to protect the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic.

It's been over 40 years, but I seem to remember also swearing that any orders I followed had to be lawful orders, to protect said Constitution.

Not the President; not "the nation"; not "the people": the Constitution.

Didn't get a chance to do much defending back then; might be necessary in the not to distant future, though.

[Hanna548]

What were those people chanting after they pulled him away from the crowd but before they walked him to the police car? I think it was ‘no more...something” I couldn’t understand it.

[papasmurf]

The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:

“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

“I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

During the Revolutionary War, the Continental Congress established different oaths for the enlisted men and officers of the Continental Army:

Enlisted: The first oath, voted on 14 June 1775 as part of the act creating the Continental Army, read: “I _____ have, this day, voluntarily enlisted myself, as a soldier, in the American continental army, for one year, unless sooner discharged: And I do bind myself to conform, in all instances, to such rules and regulations, as are, or shall be, established for the government of the said Army.” The original wording was effectively replaced by Section 3, Article 1, of the Articles of War approved by Congress on 20 September 1776, which specified that the oath of enlistment read: “I _____ swear (or affirm as the case may be) to be trued to the United States of America, and to serve them honestly and faithfully against all their enemies opposers whatsoever; and to observe and obey the orders of the Continental Congress, and the orders of the Generals and officers set over me by them.”

Officers: Continental Congress passed two versions of this oath of office, applied to military and civilian national officers. The first, on 21 October 1776, read: “I _____, do acknowledge the Thirteen United States of America, namely, New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, to be free, independent, and sovereign states, and declare, that the people thereof owe no allegiance or obedience to George the third, king of Great Britain; and I renounce, refuse and abjure any allegiance or obedience to him; and I do swear that I will, to the utmost of my power, support, maintain, and defend the said United States against the said king, George the third, and his heirs and successors, and his and their abettors, assistants and adherents; and will serve the said United States in the office of _____, which I now hold, and in any other office which I may hereafter hold by their appointment, or under their authority, with fidelity and honour, and according to the best of my skill and understanding. So help me God.” The revised version, voted 3 February 1778, read “I, _____ do acknowledge the United States of America to be free, independent and sovereign states, and declare that the people thereof owe no allegiance or obedience, to George the third, king of Great Britain; and I renounce, refuse and abjure any allegiance or obedience to him: and I do swear (or affirm) that I will, to the utmost of my power, support, maintain and defend the said United States, against the said king George the third and his heirs and successors, and his and their abettors, assistants and adherents, and will serve the said United States in the office of _____ which I now hold, with fidelity, according to the best of my skill and understanding. So help me God.”

[Mojave]

In this particular instance, the police had a good reason to tell him to leave, to avoid a physical disturbance and incite the crowd to violence.

The police clearly had a public safety issue they had to address. Still, it's awfully ironic that his behavior was allegedly deemed disorderly while the Obama supporters were behaving like a crazed mob.

[444Flyer]

“...If you set up the test that opponents of that speech can invoke the police power and silence it merely by causing a commotion, you have just eliminated all free speech.”

Brilliantly said.

[papasmurf]

It really depends on what their assessment of the situation is. I’ve seen situations where they determined that allowing civil disobedience was the best option to keep the overall peace and was in the interest of public safety.

I was a protester in the late 60’s and early 70’s. We got away with a lot, actually. But, sometimes, they had a hair trigger, and we got our azzes kicked and hauled off to jail. LOL

[444Flyer]

I think they are saying “O-BA-MA” over and over again.

[Hanna548]

Yea, I guess so, I thought I heard something else, but I guess not.

I go with the cops on this one. The guy had that goofy sword, that is provication and had they not taken him out he and perhaps others were going to get hurt.

A cat can join a large group of cats but when a cat walks into a large group of dogs you better yank the cat out of there.

[cricket]

They did not do this to 'save his life'. If that was necessary; they did it to save their own. Obviously, he was not drunk or disorderly or they would not have told him to leave; they would have just picked him up. . .or not 'roughed him up' as the case may be.

It was a 'peaceful night'; or seems so; without Media reporting the downside.

[mkjessup]

Just wait folks, before it’s all over we’ll see burning tires being shoved down over the heads of anyone deemed to be an ‘anti-Obamunist’.

Hey, it worked for Baby Doc in Haiti, you know the guy John F’in Kerry used to fawn over.

[MidasMulligan23]

I certainly can't argue with that. Well said.
I wonder what he arrested, and what he was charged with.

[nkycincinnatikid]

“gotta side with the cops on this”

If only the Hitler had thought of that.
He could have put the jews into camps before Crystalnacht for their own protection.

[freekitty]

They probably arrested him for his own safety and you have point about the Prop 8.

[MrPiper]

I gotta side with the cops on this. It’s not right, but the cops may have saved his life as well as a few others

Unfortunately, I agree, you have the freedom of speech up to the point you yell fire in a movie theater. People will get hurt. This guy would have been assaulted at the least. Welcome to "The New World Order", also known as TEOTWAWKI.

Anyone disagrees, please wear a T-shirt with a racist word on it to a ball game. Its your right, but your either stupid, or looking for a fight.

[R. Scott]

This won’t be the most popular post here, but ...
The cops probably saved him from serious injury or death. They tried to get him to leave, but he refused. The crowd was already turning ugly toward him. When they started chanting Obama! Obama! Obama! the police cuffed him and took him away - to safety.
All it would have taken to turn the crowd into a rioting mob would have been for one Obama supporter to get physical. The man would have been stomped and a full scale riot would likely ensue. Some people like to celebrate by smashing windows and burning cars.

[autumnraine]

There were some near hysterics shrieking his name. (Obama)

It was more frightening than anything I have seen.