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Pre-K Can Work
city-journal.org ^ | Autumn 2008 | Shepard Barbash

Posted on 11/23/2008 9:10:11 PM PST by ari-freedom

Anyone who has taught young children knows how daunting it can be to keep the attention of a roomful of four-year-olds, much less teach them anything. Parents and taxpayers thus have reason to worry that the federal government, having spent hundreds of billions of dollars trying to improve the nation’s public schools—with little to show for it—is under growing pressure to spend billions more on a mission even more fraught with peril: helping states create and support high-quality preschools.

With 38 states funding prekindergarten programs last year and more than 1 million children attending them—both all-time highs—congressional leaders in Washington are sponsoring various proposals to make these programs bigger and stronger. In June, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama proposed “investing $10 billion to guarantee access to quality, affordable early-childhood education for every child in America,” and his campaign website features a call for “Early Learning Challenge Grants” to help states “move toward voluntary, universal preschool.” Senator Hillary Clinton’s Ready to Learn Act, cosponsored by Missouri Republican Kit Bond, would provide states with “such funds as may be necessary” to offer full-day voluntary preschool for four-year-olds, with priority given to those who are poor or unfamiliar with English. Hawaii Democratic congresswoman Mazie Hirono’s Pre-K Act would deliver states $1 billion annually for six years to strengthen existing pre-K programs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; indoctrination; prek; universalprek
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"The one approach that Follow Through found had worked, Direct Instruction, was created by Siegfried Engelmann, who has written more than 100 curricula for reading, spelling, math, science, and other subjects. Engelmann dates DI’s inception to an experiment he performed at the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana in the summer of 1964. He took two groups of three- to five-year-olds—one white and affluent, one black and poor—and tried to teach them “sophisticated patterns of reasoning. . . . things that Piaget said couldn’t be taught before the age of formal operations—around 11 or 12.” These things included concepts like relative direction (A is north of B but south of C) and the behavior of light entering and leaving a mirror. Both groups learned what Piaget said they couldn’t at their age."

also see http://www.zigsite.com/CompPreschPro.htm

1 posted on 11/23/2008 9:10:12 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ari-freedom

Pre-K programs are a handout to teacher unions.

Statistically speaking, students who attend pre-K are a self-selecting group who have parents who fundamentally care more about their education and end up doing better in school and life.

Democrats have jumped on this correlation to justify spending more money on teacher’s unions and mandating universal pre-school. Like headstart, this will be another expensive boondongle for the teacher’s unions that accomplishes nothing more than making liberals feel good about themselves.


2 posted on 11/23/2008 9:13:26 PM PST by DiogenesLaertius
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To: DiogenesLaertius
I was 4 when I started school...FULL TIME KINDERGARTEN..like most kids...It was 1948. The cutoff was Feb. 1st....splitting the school year in half.

They changed the cutoff date, added "parent attendance required" pre-school....which was "socializing with other kids"...and no more...

Now, it's nothing but a babysitting program requiring "certified teachers"....Clever, aren't they.

Add to that the fact that "something" is wrong with every kid that twitches or taps his foot or is bored to death....and we need "certified counselors" and "drugs" to make them sit still.

Gee, Teach....sorry kids are so "annoying". Sorry you're so boring. Sorry you think that spelling stunts kids' creativity. Sorry you don't teach them times tables. Sorry....Sorry for the kids!!

3 posted on 11/23/2008 9:24:14 PM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: DiogenesLaertius
Statistically speaking, students who attend pre-K are a self-selecting group who have parents who fundamentally care more about their education and end up doing better in school and life.

And studies of Headstart vs. a control group showed all advances erased by the 3rd grade.

4 posted on 11/23/2008 9:24:23 PM PST by conservative cat ("So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: DiogenesLaertius

and watch parents stampede to get their “free daycare”.


5 posted on 11/23/2008 9:24:27 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: ari-freedom

I agree, projects that show short-term gains can be found. The problem is that programs showing permanent gains are virtually non-existent.

These efforts are subject to a phenomenon called “fade-out.” The gains achieved at age four just don’t endure into adolescence or even later elementary grades.

Implementing massive, nationwide programs that have never been shown to produce longterm gains is pretty darn irresponsible in my book. But it does make liberals feel virtuous.


6 posted on 11/23/2008 9:26:12 PM PST by freespirited (Honk to indict the MSM for treason.)
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To: ari-freedom

“Anyone who has taught young children knows how daunting it can be to keep the attention of a roomful of four-year-olds...”

GWB gets a refresher course in that lesson each time he addresses Congress!


7 posted on 11/23/2008 9:27:00 PM PST by Rembrandt
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To: ari-freedom
I know pre-K can work . I was milking cows for a good two years before I started school .
8 posted on 11/23/2008 9:34:29 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: freespirited

“These efforts are subject to a phenomenon called “fade-out.” The gains achieved at age four just don’t endure into adolescence or even later elementary grades.”

Basically - much good being done in elem. gets undone when the hormones and ultra-peer pressures kick in during the awkward squirrely middle school years.

And this is also where teacher turnover is highest.

Some districts experimented with same sex classes and strict dress codes to alleviate the problems associated with hormones and “mean girls” - with good results.

But I read about that 1 or 2 years ago and haven’t really heard anything since.


9 posted on 11/23/2008 9:35:44 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: ari-freedom

I taught science for 19 years, and I agree that Direct Instruction works.

Problem is that most grade 1-12 teachers (never mind Early Childhood majors) have never heard of it or frankly are too lazy to create structured lessons.

It’ll never happen in pre-grade 1 classes. Not unless some publishing company comes up with pre-packaged materials.


10 posted on 11/23/2008 9:38:50 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: conservative cat

That results accords with something found by the Soviet Union many years ago. It reasoned that the citizens could become productive sooner if they started school at age four instead of the customary age 5. What they discovered was that somewhere along the second or third grade, progress seemed to stall and the kids were not further along in education having started earlier.

Children need a time to be children, to bond with their parents, to work on their individual identities and personality development, to play, to sleep when necessary, to learn home skills. But with more and more parents working, kids are being shuffled off to caretakers and I guess the vast majority of them would rather have the government pay for their daycare. Yet the kids are ending up more aggressive, selfish, rebellious and exhausted.


11 posted on 11/23/2008 9:39:32 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: ari-freedom

Don’t get lost in the rhetoric. This is simply a ploy to further collectivism. Our entire education system has become anti-American and pro-collectivism. Starting earlier just allows them to influence future generations at a younger age. Additionally, more government teachers means more members in the government unions where all the political contributions go to the collectivists.


12 posted on 11/23/2008 10:19:55 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: achilles2000

kids get free care now in head start, even babies as young as a few months are elible to be baby sat.. i am sure they learn a lot...all at tax payers expense..


13 posted on 11/23/2008 10:28:08 PM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: caseinpoint

This will be “free daycare”
And yes, at the playground, library, restaurants you can tell a mile away which kids are in daycare.

My little bear is 4 and we spend our days PLAYING. AT HOME. She knows her letters, is working on phonics and can count to 50. But that’s all incorporated into our play. Kids are little sponges. Give them some attention and they will absorb anything you put in front of them. What she is mainly learning is manners, kindness, responsibility for her stuff (toys picked up, bed made), which bushes have ladybugs, and how long it takes to dig a hole deep enough to stand in. All the important things!


14 posted on 11/23/2008 10:31:06 PM PST by Sunbunny
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
"This is simply a ploy to further collectivism."

A few more billion bucks to mold babies in the shape of the state hires how many more teachers' union members?

yitbos

15 posted on 11/23/2008 10:36:15 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: LibFreeOrDie

I have Engelmann’s “Give your child a superior mind.”

It would be great if someone would bring back the Engelmann-Bereiter pre-school. Kids are capable of so much more than cutting and coloring.


16 posted on 11/23/2008 10:42:18 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Sunbunny

playing is great but it is not as effective as Direct Instruction and culturally deprived kids need every advantage they can get!


17 posted on 11/23/2008 10:46:37 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

“Our entire education system has become anti-American and pro-collectivism.”

if they aren’t in school, chances are they are sitting in front of the TV and soaking up all kinds of nonsense. Why not teach them how to read or do math instead?


18 posted on 11/23/2008 10:49:44 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

oh they have heard of it but it contradicts everything they have been taught in the Ed schools, especially Piaget. Therefore, it must be bad.


19 posted on 11/23/2008 10:56:01 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: ari-freedom

I have taught reading using Direct Instruction. The schools using that program are still the worst schools in the state.


20 posted on 11/23/2008 11:07:58 PM PST by Dianna
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