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Put your hand up if you’re British or American
The Sun ^ | 11.26.2008 | Charlotte Spratt

Posted on 11/26/2008 7:39:39 PM PST by libh8er

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To: ZULU

Most of that would have to come from within Islam. They won’t allow themselves to be consigned to the dustbin of history. Obviously they are not beyond inhuman violence to stay relevant.

The real problem is no leader has had the courage to wage the war that must be waged. When you wage PC wars and wars to “win hearts and minds” your results are always going to be mixed at best.

I would wage Psy-Op campaigns (which I will not go into detail about) against them and end most, if not all of this Mahomet nonsense. You have to make them want to quit. You have to exploit their every weakness and we all know what their weaknesses are but are reluctant to exploit them as we must follow PC guidelines even when fighting wars.

For starters, you don’t give terrorists in prison Korans and all the Islamic comforts of home.


81 posted on 11/26/2008 9:16:49 PM PST by WildcatClan (AND THOSE DOESNT BRAIN JUST GO. ---- Cecile Noe)
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To: Deo volente

“but that would involve massive use of nuclear weapons on various terrorist states, and an absolute ban on Muslim immigration and even the practice of the religion in our country.”

If that is what it takes, it may have to be done. A fw nuclaer attacks on the American homesoil and the clueless masses may finally wake up.


82 posted on 11/26/2008 9:18:27 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Salamander
...Just remember to tote some of your ammo over to widow’s houses, nursing homes and elementary schools to help out.

Up until the day he died at his assisted living facility in February my Grandfather had his .308 hunting rifle and his taken Japanese infantry rifle in his abode and until about 5 days before he passed he would have shouldered them...

83 posted on 11/26/2008 9:19:57 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows and that which governs least blows least...)
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To: WildcatClan

“They won’t allow themselves to be consigned to the dustbin of history.”

WE will have to “convince” them that is there is their proper spot.

I agree with everything else you say.


84 posted on 11/26/2008 9:20:47 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: libh8er
Most of us are looking at this tonight as an attack on far away India.

THIS IS AN ATTACK UPON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

President Bush and President Elect Dumbass had better get this aspect of it emphasized at ONCE.

85 posted on 11/26/2008 9:22:43 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Shouldn't we form "Committees of Correspondence" thru Freepmail & V-Cards if FR is to be shut down?)
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To: ZULU
There were attacks on the Copts in Egypt today too. There were attacks and expulsions of Chaldeans in Iraq last week as well.

Change?
86 posted on 11/26/2008 9:24:10 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: GatorGirl
Wow, that question gave me a moment of pause. I am just as proud to be American overseas as I am at home. It’s kind of like martyrdom—do you admit to being an American and face your fate or do you claim to be Canadian and save your skin? Although that might be too close to British/American anyway. Don’t know what I’d do. Thank God I haven’t had to face that issue...yet.....

Simple ...if I were in such a situation, and was an American, I would think of my spouse and my kids, and then ask myself if telling some piece of terrorist scum that I am American just so that he can whisk me away and cut my head off on celluloid, which my family would inevitably see (some day), was worth the few moments of pleasure of standing up and telling him to his face that I was a darn proud bl@@dy American and spitting into his mug! I really do not think it is cowardice saying you are Swiss in such a situation ....I think it is prudence. I also do not think it is bravery standing with arms akimbo and saying that you are American and d@mn what they do to you, that would be simply stupidity since it is not solving anything.

Thus the answer in such a situation would be possible ....saying you are Swiss in a weird accent. Saying you are American, and having your family wonder for weeks on end if you are alive in some dank dark wet cell waiting for some wild-eyed Jihadi to cut off your head, or whether you are already dead, makes no sense.

Now, if you saying that would save lives, then that makes you a hero. However, if all it does is give you exactly 5 seconds of pleasure for 'telling em as it is,' and then after that follows years of anguish for your family as they relive the Daniel Pearl experience, then it is not worth it.

Being a proud national of any country is more internal than external ....the belief and fervor for one's country, even when shown to the entire world and held up in all its glory, always has to stem from the heart, the mind and the soul. Meaning, as a Kenyan for instance, I don't have to stand up and 'prove' to unwashed scum anything, particularly when it may affect my loved ones.

Now, this is what gives me pause. What if, instead of nationality, the question was on faith? It reminds me of that girl in Columbine who was asked if she was Christian, said yes, and was promptly shot.

87 posted on 11/26/2008 9:38:17 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: libh8er
Another target was the city’s famous Cafe Leopold — a mecca for tourists.

Someone at the Sun has a grim sense of humor.

88 posted on 11/26/2008 9:40:35 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: libh8er

Meanwhile, the office of President Elect issued a statement calling for dialogue to end the cycle of violence.


89 posted on 11/26/2008 9:59:09 PM PST by fso301
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To: libh8er; NoLibZone
102 reported killed so far -- the total death toll will be far higher. Nuke Mecca and Medina NOW. The Muslimes want to bleed the civilised world bit by bit: attack a Bali nightclub, blow trains in London, Mumbai, Spain, fly planes into the WTC and now this. Each time, the civilised world does nothing and lets Muslimes migrate to the West ("Aliens in America", by gad). The Muslimes by and large support this ("Peace can only be there in Islam" -- so the scum say).

End it now, Nuke Mecca and Medina. Give them a choice -- convert or die. Convert to any religion (Islam and it's sects are not religions, just satanism)
90 posted on 11/26/2008 10:12:54 PM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Axenolith

I’m sorry he’s gone.

He would’ve made up for “Jason’s” “screw America” shirking.

May God bless your grandfather.


91 posted on 11/26/2008 10:14:23 PM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Cicero

No killing the terrorists. Castrate them with a rusty, pigs-blood soaked knife. Then shoot them in each knee with a shot-gun, amputate the limbs and lock in a flea infested dungeon. No talks, no negotiations, no media, no pictures, nothing.


92 posted on 11/26/2008 10:14:53 PM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: ZULU; Dallas59; Kolokotronis; kosta50

Egypt, North Africa, Syria, Jordan, Turkey, Bosnia, Albania, much of Iraq and parts of Yemen were all Christian. Then we sat back and let these Satan worshippers of Islam take in and reduce our people to dhimmis or worse muslimes.


93 posted on 11/26/2008 10:17:47 PM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: GatorGirl
Don’t know what I’d do. Thank God I haven’t had to face that issue...yet

In this day and age, anyone thinking such people asking such questions are rational and do not intend to kill them probably needs to be culled from the herd.

The proper response in my opinion is to:

  1. Make the best of a post 9/11 bad situation. Assume if you comply, you will die totally on the terrorists terms. If you resist, you will delay the terrorists from killing others and disrupt their plan. You may still die in the process but at least you went down fighting. If lucky, you may actually survive.

    The nature of terrorism is such that they can be regarded as amatuers since they never live beyond their first terrorist mission. One amatuer terrorist with a submachine gun will still be distracted if 100 hostages begin throwing keychains, glasses, plates and cellphones at him.

  2. Deny. If their priority is to kill Americans, Britons and Jews/Israelis rather than indescriminantly kill everyone, denying will slow down and make the terrorists job more difficult because they have to pause and check your passport which you may be able to claim is in your room in a hotel across town.

    All this time, you know you are doomed if you comply and do nothing. Instead, you are waiting for the chance to plunge an inkpen into the nearest terrorists throat/eye/heart/lung and or attempt an escape.

  3. Whatever you do, do not let yourself go like a sheep to slaughter.

94 posted on 11/26/2008 10:44:32 PM PST by fso301
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To: libh8er

If this ever happens again, one person in the room has to tell the terrorist(s) that they have 10 seconds to evacuate the room or everyone will rush them and beat them to a pulp. Then everyone count beginning counting from 10 to zero. When the count reaches zero, carry out the threat and beat the living tar out of them until they die. Will someone innocent die if the terrorists do not leave and begin to shoot? Probably. But it is like falling on a grenade to save others. Nothing wrong with dying a hero’s death.


95 posted on 11/27/2008 12:52:04 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR

IF only the crowd would,but most will vainly hope to be spared if they just go along.Heck the Jews outnumbered the concentration camp guards but when did they storm en masse?


96 posted on 11/27/2008 2:53:52 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: Cronos

“Then we sat back and let these Satan worshippers of Islam take in and reduce our people to dhimmis or worse muslimes.”

Yup!But remember, in the New World Order we’ve been served, Mohammedans are our friends and allies! /s


97 posted on 11/27/2008 4:37:40 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: BIGLOOK

The only thinig which changes is the clock.

WHERE is the outrage in the Christian wolrd over the treatment our Coptic and Assyrian and Chaldean brothers and sisters receive from these venomous demons.


98 posted on 11/27/2008 4:46:39 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: DennisR

I think you are exactly right on this score.


99 posted on 11/27/2008 5:49:16 AM PST by Alia
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To: Cicero

India can take care of this...and will.

Pakistan is going to be a burning hole.


100 posted on 11/27/2008 5:58:53 AM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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