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McCain evolved from reluctant warrior to interventionist
McClatchy via The Centre Daily Times, State College, PA ^ | 2008-11-04 | Jonathan S. Landay

Posted on 11/30/2008 4:33:55 PM PST by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON — Republican presidential hopeful John McCain fixed his sights on Saddam Hussein long before President Bush sent the U.S. military to oust the Iraqi dictator in March 2003.

(Excerpt) Read more at centredaily.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2008; mcbama; mccain; mccainrecord; mccaintruthfile; mccainwarmongering; mcqueeg; prequel; saddam
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1 posted on 11/30/2008 4:33:55 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: Bokababe
In speeches and interviews McCain:
* Has invoked a variety of justifications for using force, from defending the nation's security, allies, interests and "principles and values" to halting genocide in places such as Darfur and Kosovo and salvaging U.S. "credibility."

FYI

2 posted on 11/30/2008 4:35:34 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: MaggieCarta; indylindy; roamer_1; calcowgirl; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; Sybeck1; ...

The Juan McCain Truth File.

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—John McCain, October 2, 2008

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3 posted on 11/30/2008 4:36:04 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

In my honest opinion McLame lost it when he sign onto that POS Bailout Bill.

I made up my mind right then and there that I will NEVER support (however tepidly) another Senator for POTUS again. NEVER!


4 posted on 11/30/2008 4:38:53 PM PST by Howie66 (To the RAT Party: How can I question your patriotism? You have none, so what's your point?)
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To: Howie66

I agree. At that point, it became difficult to argue that the Republican party was less socialist than the Democratic candidate/party.


5 posted on 11/30/2008 4:48:08 PM PST by knittnmom (FReeper formerly known as 80 Square Miles)
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To: rabscuttle385
I think that Bob Dole was actually a worse candidate than John McCain was.

Dole, on the other hand was a better Senator and a better man for the job.

The Republican Party now lays in ashes partly because of McCain's incompetence.

Tell me something that I did not know 6 months ago.

6 posted on 11/30/2008 4:50:57 PM PST by Radix (Posting cynical responses ever since...."What time is it anyhow?")
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To: Howie66
That's also when his polls tanked. He squandered all of the gains from naming Palin to run with him.

McCain't need to retire, his days as an effective politician are behind him.
7 posted on 11/30/2008 4:51:49 PM PST by FrankR (A lie would have no sense unless the truth were felt dangerous.- Alfred Adler)
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To: FrankR

He just barely had my support before he picked Governor Palin...had it solid when he did....and squandered it like a drunken sailor when he voted yes on that POS.

I will never forgive him for that because in essence, he threw our country down the crapper by default.


8 posted on 11/30/2008 4:57:06 PM PST by Howie66 (To the RAT Party: How can I question your patriotism? You have none, so what's your point?)
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To: rabscuttle385

The “old guard” went with an old, Bob Dole-esque candidate because it was “his turn.” McCain was old like Dole, a bad candidate like Dole, represented a “new right” wing of the party like Dole, ran a bad campaign like Dole....so was it really any surprise the election ended in a Dole-like result?

No more Bob Doles or John McCains as the party’s nominees, please.


9 posted on 11/30/2008 5:02:56 PM PST by Gary Johnson in 2012 (Gary Johnson for President in 2012.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Republican presidential hopeful John McCain fixed his sights on Saddam Hussein long before President Bush sent the U.S. military to oust the Iraqi dictator in March 2003.

So did Bill and Hillary Clinton and half the libs in Congress. Looks like he continues to run with the same crowd in thought and deed..

10 posted on 11/30/2008 5:05:05 PM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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To: rabscuttle385
In speeches and interviews McCain: * Has invoked a variety of justifications for using force, from defending the nation's security, allies, interests and "principles and values" to halting genocide in places such as Darfur and Kosovo and salvaging U.S. "credibility." "

The German Courts (the Kosovo Albanians' Ally) ruled that there was NO KOSOVO GENOCIDE.

The UN Court in Kosovo (which included an Albanian Judge) ruled that there was NO KOSOVO GENOCIDE.

But, McCain & the rest of the Clinton crew including Obama, keep repeating that same lie over and over, as though repeating it will turn a lie into truth.

11 posted on 11/30/2008 5:05:59 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Gary Johnson in 2012

Dole also had a last minute ‘twist’ by picking Kemp for VP and they weren’t coordinated on the issues. Same with McCain and Palin and the campaign was awkward as a result.


12 posted on 11/30/2008 5:22:44 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Jonathan S. Landay (McClatchy Newspapers):
by Radio Left Review on Fri 03 Nov 2006 05:48 PM CST
RadioLeft Review
Flush Rush

|http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2006/11/3/2472215.html

Skippy, I see you again get your information from the far left and their hate for those fighting against Landry’s heros the IslamOfascists.

American men and women and our allies are fighting the enemy so school boys can sit in their father’s home and
spread leftwing crap against those who are fighting for freedom


13 posted on 11/30/2008 5:38:20 PM PST by SoCalPol (In Defeat: Defiance - Churchill)
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To: SoCalPol; rabscuttle385
Skippy, I see you again get your information from the far left and their hate for those fighting against Landry’s heros the IslamOfascists.

Hey Skippy yourself,

Why not try refuting what the author has to say by presenting facts, logic and reason instead of pulling out the tired and old he's from the left garbage.

I saw plenty of disingenuous, untrue, half-true articles from people on the right this election season.

Just because somebody is published on a lefty-blog or is left-leaning in his views does not immediately mean that everything they write is a lie.

Conversely, just because somebody is published on a right-wing blog or publication or is right-leaning in his views does not mean automatcially they are correct or honest in what they are writing.
14 posted on 11/30/2008 6:28:00 PM PST by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: SoCalPol; roamer_1; calcowgirl; djsherin; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Bokababe; dcwusmc; ...
Skippy, I see you again get your information...

First off, my name isn't Skippy.

American men and women and our allies are fighting the enemy so school boys can sit in their father’s home and spread leftwing crap against those who are fighting for freedom

Freedom? LOL. The U.S. is entangled in Middle Eastern affairs because of the globalists and their twisted vision of "opening up" the Middle East to the rest of the world. The U.S. funnels billions of dollars on a daily basis to hostile powers for oil and is then surprised when they turn on us. [Furthermore, why the hell is the U.S. borrowing from such foreign States and then turning around and spending those dollars to defend their sorry arses?]

The solution is not more war. The solution is to damn the Greenies, open up all domestic energy supplies and natural resources for development, and tell the terrorists in the desert to go pound sand. Let them drink their own oil. Then, pull out, and let the Muslims return to killing each other instead of doing this:

Oh, and by the way, please try to realize that the primary role of the United States Government is to provide for a common defense of the United States territory against all enemies, foreign and domestic, not to rule the world by imposing its will on other countries. Too bad that the U.S. was too busy doing the latter to fulfill the former on September 11.

15 posted on 11/30/2008 6:42:42 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: SoConPubbie

ping


16 posted on 11/30/2008 6:43:18 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: SoConPubbie

The views are right out of the Marxist Code Pinkos I have countered many times at their rallies.

I have many relatives who have fought in Iraq and Afgh. and are still over there. I hear and read first hand
what the truth is vs. one of the typical far left anti war, open border, fairness doc. lemmings.


17 posted on 11/30/2008 6:46:07 PM PST by SoCalPol (In Defeat: Defiance - Churchill)
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To: SoCalPol
"The views are right out of the Marxist Code Pinkos I have countered many times at their rallies."

You go to "Marxist Code Pinko Rallies"? Wow!

"I have many relatives who have fought in Iraq and Afgh. and are still over there. I hear and read first hand what the truth is vs. one of the typical far left anti war, open border, fairness doc. lemmings."

As far as "anti-war", what person in their right mind worships war and thinks that war is "a good thing"? War is and always should be a court of last resort, in defense of the United States of America and no one else! That is what our country was founded on.

No one is suggesting "open borders" EXCEPT the libs and the neocons -- McCain (Mr.McAmnesty) being one of them!

Hate to break it to you but you are arguing against your own position, SoCalPol

18 posted on 11/30/2008 7:01:59 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: rabscuttle385

It’s too bad he didn’t evolve into retirement before he polluted the Republican primary elections and ended up handing Obama a victory.


19 posted on 11/30/2008 7:02:16 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself)
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To: rabscuttle385

Your same delusional thinking can be seen at DU and KOS

BTW enjoy your candidate’s selection

Obama Appoints Speechwriting and Intergovernmental Affairs Heads(Obama Taps La Raza VP)

Barack Obama continued rounding out his White House staff today, naming Cecilia Munoz director of intergovernmental affairs

Munoz, meanwhile, will oversee the White House office responsible for relations between the administration and state and local governments.

The 2000 MacArthur Foundation “genius grant” winner is a senior vice president at the National Council of La Raza, a leading Hispanic civil rights group.

There, she has spearheaded many of the organization’s immigration initiatives. Currently, she is in charge of the group’s entire advocacy and legislative agenda.


20 posted on 11/30/2008 7:04:03 PM PST by SoCalPol (In Defeat: Defiance - Churchill)
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