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Greece: Islamic Youths "Studying Hard"
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Posted on 12/15/2008 2:43:09 PM PST by The Conservative Yogini

You'd think that since the liberal media believes in the importance of global awareness, that their coverage of the riots in Greece would be as extensive as the coverage of a local disaster such as 9/11. However, as usual, the liberal left demonstrates that it does not walk its own talk. And why exactly does it brazenly bear such hypocrisy? It is because the left is either lying, stupid or both.

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KEYWORDS: greece; islam; islamicyouths; jihad; mohammedanism; mohammedanism1208; mohammedanism122008; muslimyouths; obama; unholyalliance; youths
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1 posted on 12/15/2008 2:43:12 PM PST by The Conservative Yogini
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To: The Conservative Yogini

It is because the left is either lying, stupid or both.

Yes, Yes, and um, Yes.


2 posted on 12/15/2008 2:52:09 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

Dont they realize how much greenhouse gas is released by their rioting?

3 posted on 12/15/2008 2:53:13 PM PST by DogBarkTree (Sometimes you have to let it go in order to get a Grip.)
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To: The Conservative Yogini
Interesting confirmation from a London anarchist:

“These days are ours, too”
Monday, December 15, 2008

(The following text was distributed at the student picket outside the police headquarters today by people from Athens’ Haunt of Albanian Migrants. I wanted to translate and upload it here because it shows something very important: that ties of solidarity are being formed and strengthened across different sectors of the Greek society - a wonderful thing!)

These days are ours, too

...

In the framework of this wider mobilisation, with the student demonstrations being its steam-engine, there is a mass participation of the second generation of migrants and many refugees also. The refugees come to the streets in small numbers, with limited organisation, with the spontaneity and impetus describing their mobilisation. Right now, they are the most militant part of the foreigners living in Greece. Either way, they have very little to lose.

www.occupiedlondon.org

4 posted on 12/15/2008 2:58:45 PM PST by PhilosopherStones
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To: The Conservative Yogini

Studying what?

Science/math/engineering students don’t have time to riot.

Lib “arts” students have all the time in the world because they don’t have anything to study under our modern “profs”.

And, should they actually be forced to take a real liberal arts education a la Oxford around 50 years ago, they’d riot anyway - because they couldn’t pass.


5 posted on 12/15/2008 3:00:15 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: The Conservative Yogini
Obama is going to speak at a Muslim capital to repair OUR tainted image. OUR tainted image? Are we the ones burning buildings? Slaughtering thousands? Destroying civilizations?

Obama wants to repair "our" image. This is laughable. This is the genius we elected into office.

6 posted on 12/15/2008 3:16:29 PM PST by marron
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To: The Conservative Yogini
These are not muslims, they are ETHNIC Greek anarchists, students, unionists and party activists and it has nothing to do with the jihadists but public GREEK anger over government economic policy and reforms in the academic fields. That is why you are seeing so many students, they are against the reforms that the Greek government wants to make in the universities. Unfortunately this kind of rioting is common and HOME GROWN among European native youths who call themselves 'anarchists' for decades now. They are anti-capitalist leftists, anarchists and hooligans, mostly youths and students are involved behind the riots and more ofthen then not they come from wealthy familes. Demonstrations have been held on a regular bases across the country for almost two years now in opposition to the government's plan to amend Greece's constitution in order to allow private companies to open universities. Currently all institutions of higher learning do not charge tuition. The kid who was killed went to one of the most expensive and private schools in Greece.

French Anarchists Riot 2006
Berlin Anarchists Riot 1990 & 80s
Anarchists Riot in Greece Feb. 2008
Anarchists Riot in Germany / Rostock (G8)
Anarchists Riot in Gothenburg, Sweden
Anarchists Riot in Stockholm 2006
Anarchists Riot in Athens, Greece 2007
Anarchists Riot in Greece 1985-1990

Anarchist movement in Greece traces its origins to the brutal military junta in the 1960s & 1970s. It ruled the country from 1967 to 1974 and it still is a sore spot with most Greek today.
Greek Military Junta of 1967-1974

In 1973 a student protest against the junta at Athens Polytechnic university resulted in the military sending tanks into the school and in the deaths of over 40 civilians, mostly students, but this event was just the climax to over six years of brutal military rule in the country. Since the country has this violent past the Greek population is very sensitivity to state violence against civilians, which is why the authorities hesitant to use overwhelming force against them. To this day Greek police and military are not permitted to enter college campuses since 1973, when tanks quashed the student uprising at Athens Polytechnic. The movie "Z" is actually based upon Greek military rule of this time period.
Z Film

ETHNIC GREEKS: ANARCHISTS, STUDENTS, PROTESTERS IN CURRECT RIOTS
: if you notice most carry the symbols of the anarchists: red and black flag, the star, dressed all in black, hooded, gas masks, back-packing youths

AGAIN ETHNIC GREEKS, NOT MUZZIES, PROTEST AGAINST GOVERNMENT over economic affairs. It was these kinds of protests by ethnic Greeks that led to the Saturday rioting in where unfortunately the kid was killed and then ultimately to the rioting of the last days.
"10/21/2008: Over 400 Greek ethnic protesters joined a demo today in Skala Lakonias, a southern greek region against the government and corporations plans for building a constration for reclaiming the water of a river named vasilopotamos. The local citizens and their local assembly resist against the contstaction because after a research of envriromentalists and other organizations, they found out that its gonna be a big environmental destraction for the whole area. The government after all it seems that will allow the plan and will continue the process of building it next month."

21 May 2008 Athens Greece: "Residents of the Greek capital Athens go about their daily business, while riot police prepare for student demonstrations against university reforms. Bank employees, lawyers and firefighters were on strike on Friday to protest against the government's pension reform bill." Its these kind of protests by ethnic Greeks is what led to the riots last week...not the muzzies:

May 21, 2008: Greece: A couple kisses in front of a riot policeman during student demonstrations against university reforms in central Athens."

March 19, 2008 Athens Greece: "Greek riot police and a civilian run for cover to avoid a firebomb hurled by protesters during a demonstration in central Athens. Private and public sector unions launched a 24-hour nationwide strike on Wednesday against the government's planned pension reforms, grounding flights, confining ships to port and closing schools, ministries and banks.":

April 21, 2007: Greek riot police clash with anarchists, students, unionists and party activists protesters."

February 2, 2007: Greece - Demonstrations and clashes: more than half of all universities in Greece are occupied and on strike to oppose changes being made to the constitution that would affect universities. Anarchists equipped with gas masks, wooden poles and Molotov Cocktails clashed with Greek riot police."

November 17, 2006: Greek riot police arrest anarchists, students, unionists and party activists protesters on the sidelines of an Athens demonstration held to commemorate the 33rd anniversary of the Greek military junta's bloody crackdown against a student uprising."

"June 21, 2003: A Greek riot policeman kicks a protester in a main street of the northern town of Thessaloniki following a meeting of the EU summit on Saturday. The police fired volleys of teargas in Greece's second largest city to disperse hundreds of self-styled anarchists who were among the thousand anti-capitalist protesters marching through Thessaloniki's centre. The anarchists smashed shop windows and set fire to cars and buildings."

7 posted on 12/15/2008 3:32:12 PM PST by apro
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To: The Conservative Yogini
In this photo from a December 11, 2008 Marxist.com article, the protesters can be seen giving the communist fist salute. (Marxist.com is obviously a pro-communist website)

And here they are with large red (communist) flags...

"After four days of struggle we can now start to draw some first clear conclusions. Without any doubt this movement deserves the title of 'teenager uprising'. We have here a new generation of tens of thousands of school students erupting in a huge explosion, the biggest for 20 years, if not even more, in Greece. We have clear symptoms of an instinctive revolutionary spirit, and a clear tendency to target not only the present bourgeois government but also the bourgeois state and the capitalist system as a whole."

http://www.marxist.com/greece-teenager-uprising-big-general-strike.htm
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Greece: massive school student attack against police stations all over the country!
By Editorial Board of "Marxistiki Foni" December 10, 2008
http://www.marxist.com/greece-school-student-attack-police-stations.htm
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The “masked ones”, as they are known, hold informal assemblies each day, where everyone has a chance to discuss where this “revolution” is headed. They even debate whether it is a revolution. “It is a social riot,” said another gate guard, “and it’s still going on. We don’t know yet where it will lead.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5333758.ece

8 posted on 12/15/2008 3:47:39 PM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: PhilosopherStones
"Interesting confirmation from a London anarchist: “These days are ours, too” Monday, December 15, 2008 (The following text was distributed at the student picket outside the police headquarters today by people from Athens’ Haunt of Albanian Migrants. I wanted to translate and upload it here because it shows something very important: that ties of solidarity are being formed and strengthened across different sectors of the Greek society - a wonderful thing!) These days are ours, too ... In the framework of this wider mobilisation, with the student demonstrations being its steam-engine, there is a mass participation of the second generation of migrants and many refugees also. The refugees come to the streets in small numbers, with limited organisation, with the spontaneity and impetus describing their mobilisation. Right now, they are the most militant part of the foreigners living in Greece. Either way, they have very little to lose. www.occupiedlondon.org"

LOL!! Albanian propaganda, nothing more. What goof-balls, they are trying to over blow their supposed 'support' by the majority of the population as usual.

I have to say though, this is my favorite from that anarchist site you posted:

"This, combined with the pre-trial detention of arrestees in small cities (i.e. in Kozani and Larissa) shows the greek “justice” will be following a zero tolerance approach with anyone suspected of participating in the revolt. As the prosecutor told the arrestees in Kozani, “the police can no longer deal with you - so we will”."

These riots have nothing to do with Albanian migrants, jihadists, etc. These are ETHNIC Greek anarchists, students, unionists and party activists and the riots have to do with public GREEK anger over government economic policy and reforms in the academic fields. That is why you are seeing so many students, they are against the reforms that the Greek government wants to make in the universities. Unfortunately this kind of rioting is common and HOME GROWN among European native youths who call themselves 'anarchists' for decades now. The kid who was killed went to one of the most expensive and private schools in Greece. They are anti-capitalist leftists, anarchists and hooligans, mostly youths and students are involved behind the riots and more ofthen then not they come from wealthy familes. Demonstrations have been held on a regular bases across the country for almost two years now in opposition to the government's plan to amend Greece's constitution in order to allow private companies to open universities. Ethnic Greeks are behind the bulk of these riots, not 'muzzies', the muzzies might have taken advantage of certain situations and joined in but they were not the majority nor were they the cause nor the bulk of those rioting. Greeks and their neighbors are the least likely people to allow the propagation of the myth of Islamic tolerance. Besides the rioting is already losing its momentum.

"Just one firebomb attack was reported overnight in the student district of Exarchia, where 15-year-old Alexis Grigoropoulos died from a police bullet nine days ago.

Rallies were announced drawing university and school students to the Athens police headquarters from midday and again after dark. But protesters admitted that maintaining momentum was becoming difficult." ~ ATHENS (AFP)12 hours ago

"While most of the protests have been peaceful, the tone of the demonstrations has been set by a violent fringe, with more young people willing to join such elements than in the past.

Athens remained calm this morning, with no plans for further protests. Traffic returned to normal in the city centre and an open-topped double-decker bus carried tourists round the capital's main sights." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/14/greece

9 posted on 12/15/2008 4:09:17 PM PST by apro
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To: apro

I lived in France near the Italian border for 13 years. I’m well acquainted with rioting “yutes”.

I thought that article was a perfect example, though, of leftie “useful idiots” who welcome Islamic rioters in their midsts.


10 posted on 12/15/2008 4:40:35 PM PST by PhilosopherStones
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To: The Conservative Yogini; All

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From Wikipedia with references at site...

Anarcho-syndicalism


A common Anarcho-Syndicalist flag.

In the early 20th century, anarcho-syndicalism arose as a distinct school of thought within anarchism.[78] With greater focus on the labour movement than previous forms of anarchism, syndicalism posits radical trade unions as a potential force for revolutionary social change, replacing capitalism and the state with a new society, democratically self-managed by the workers.

Anarcho-syndicalists seek to abolish the wage system and private ownership of the means of production, which they believe lead to class divisions. Important principles include workers' solidarity, direct action (such as general strikes and workplace recuperations), and workers' self-management. This is compatible with other branches of anarchism, and anarcho-syndicalists often subscribe to anarchist communist or collectivist anarchist economic systems.[79] Its advocates propose labour organization as a means to create the foundations of a non-hierarchical anarchist society within the current system and bring about social revolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

11 posted on 12/15/2008 4:41:24 PM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

I’m of Greek descent and it makes me sad to read about this continued violence. How will any of this help their country? Greece thrives on tourism dollars and that will be nixed for weeks because of this.

Whatever happened to the Martin Luther King way of protesting? Peaceful, non-violent protests? Seems like the left has given that up for tactics more typical of Adolph Hitler’s thugs.


12 posted on 12/15/2008 6:50:26 PM PST by deannadurbin
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>>>Whatever happened to the Martin Luther King way of protesting? Peaceful, non-violent protests? Seems like the left has given that up for tactics more typical of Adolph Hitler’s thugs.<<<

Martin Luther King’s form of protest was possible because of the American tradition of individual rights, rule of law, and a common law tradition from Great Britian. (The same is true of Gandhi in India, who benefited from the fact that his colonizers came from Great Britian.) On top of that, King’s protests were influenced by Christian thinking and traditional American values, both of which were used against segregationists and racists into feeling shame for their beliefs.

True, King was later under the influence of the left, especially in the time just before his assassination, but civil disobedience and non-violent protests could have only happened in a place like the United States.

The left does not care about such niceties like individual rights and rule of law. The left is a utopian belief that their worldview and beliefs will lead to a perfect future, and anyone who gets in their way is either stupid or expendable. That’s why they quickly devolve into thugs of the Hitlerian and Stalinist type. Perhaps King’s approach would have developed into that kind of thuggish protest if the left had successfully taken over King, but that’s speculation of an alternate history.


13 posted on 12/15/2008 8:23:43 PM PST by redpoll
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To: apro

You missed the point. Please read. http://europenews.dk/en/node/17226


14 posted on 12/15/2008 10:32:58 PM PST by The Conservative Yogini
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No I did not miss the point and I am familiar with http://europenews.dk/ and that article found in that link is full of misinformation. Yes the Greek police KNEW disturbances will take place they have been taking place for TWO years now and the muzzies have nothing to do with them. The root cause for the riots is the publics discontent with the current administrations reform plans. If you’ve been following the Greek news you would have known such demonstrations have been held on a regular bases across the country for almost two years now in opposition to the government’s plan to amend Greece’s constitution. Greek anarchists, students, unionists and party activists because of public anger over government economic policy and reforms in the academic fields. Last year more then half the school year in Greece was lost because of riots, i.e. demonstrations and students taken over schools and unviresities. On Thursday and Friday(12/4/08 & 12/5/08) the Nurses Unions in Greece went on strike, those strikes led to Saturday night’s riots, those riots had the police out in force to stop them and it was during the Saturday night riots that the kid was accidently shot by a police officer. That death set off more riots ‘in the name of the kid who was killed’ said some, but in reality its over their discontent with the government trying to make economic and academic changes in the country, as well as hooligans taken advantage of the situation to riot for basically nothing. This is why you are seeing so many students, they are against the reforms that the Greek government wants to make in the universities. Unfortunately this kind of rioting is common thru out Europe thanks to their socialistic culture that is a breeding ground for anti-capitalist leftists, anarchists and hooligans, mostly youths and students are involved behind the riots and more of then not they come from wealthy familes.


15 posted on 12/16/2008 5:07:50 PM PST by apro
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To: apro

I see what you are saying, but how can you prove that what europenews is saying is misinformation? What about this:
http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/tn113007.htm

and this

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100010_08/12/2008_102841.

You can’t possibly say that Muslims are not involved. You justify your position on “news”. But since when is the “news” an accurate source of information. They will be involved in anything that serves the distruction of the West and civilization in any form.


16 posted on 12/16/2008 9:45:11 PM PST by The Conservative Yogini
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To: The Conservative Yogini

Yes, I understand what you are saying and no one is claiming Greece doesn’t have its own share of muzzies although they are not on a large scale like those found in many other European nations but it is that kind of xenophobia that Greeks have of muslims that allows the Greek authorities to ship most of them back to where ever they came from under the cover of darkness because the idiots at the EU requires EU member states to offer asylum to all migrants but Greek authorities don’t. Trust me, if the individuals rioting in the streets of Athens were mostly muslim immigrants the Greek government would not have held back, they would have used force and the general public would not have raised an issue with the shabby way Greek authorities treat migrants because of muslim xenophobia in the Greek psyche. That’s why authorities get away with killing them left and right, treating them shabby, shipping most of them back from wherever they came etc., and the Greek public does not raise any issues. Trust me, what went on in Greece last week had to do with Greek domestic issues that have been festering for the past several yers now, not the muzzies.


17 posted on 12/17/2008 3:29:25 PM PST by apro
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To: apro

Fair enough. That is your opinion and your version of the story. Others have a different one.


18 posted on 12/18/2008 10:02:30 AM PST by The Conservative Yogini
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To: The Conservative Yogini; apro; Kolokotronis; Bokababe
Apro is clueless about what us going on in Greece. He has no idea as to the number of Muslims living there both legally and illegally. He continues to post photos from mainstream media which cannot possibly accurately portray the deal on the ground. the photos say nothing about who is doing what and who is behind the violence

These figures as of 2001 are of course estimates because Muslims generally hide the truth from and LIE to authorities. For example, one of my many relatives and friends in Greece lives in an apartment building in Athens where pakistanis live 20 to a room. There are a about 100 in 4 different rental units. On Fridays the wailing is constant. Interestingly, the past two Fridays it's been rather quiet....

500,000 Albanians - 90% Muslims and beyond that hate Greeks.
120,000 Turks - all Muslims
200,000 immigrant Muslims in Athens

that is about 720,000 - and as I said a conservative estimate because the govt is unable and unwilling (for a variety of reasons) to get a true count.

The total population of Greece is around 10.7 million. So you see that Greece is being islamicized faster than the naive like apro realize.

Kosovo used to be Christian and now it has become the main terror cell of Europe from which prostitution and drug smuggling etc can freely flow through to the west.

19 posted on 12/19/2008 1:47:48 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: eleni121; The Conservative Yogini; apro; Bokababe

Sorry, I’ve spoken to MY relatives in Athens who, admittedly in the ND government or the military, to a man and a woman deny that the violence we are seeing in Greece is inspired by Mohammedans though there is little doubt that Mohammedans have joined into the violence at least in the cities. Out in the countryside it may well be Albanian dogs who are causing trouble but they are always looking for opportunities for that.

The problem in Greece is the acceptability of a large and active communist party, a vicious and opportunistic PASOK opposition headed by the American George Papandreou, a large and politically connected anarchist movement and finally the most coddled, privileged group of “university students” in Europe.

Hard as it is to believe, my cousins down in Greece hate the Mohammedans even more than I do. No one would wish to blame this on ravening Mohammedanism than my cousins or me, but it simply isn’t true and it does no one any good to delude themselves about what’s happening there.

By the way, that there are areas of Athens with 20 Pakis or some other species of Islamic vermin jammed into one room is absolutely true. Most of them work for factory owners who are members of Nea Demokratia...they have “free enterprise” in Greece too! They hang out in Greece until they get get further West. The average Greek loathes them and treats them like the filth they are. Its the elites who whine about them, again mostly Nea Demokratia Eurokrats.


20 posted on 12/19/2008 3:22:11 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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