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Minnesota Canvassing Board in the process of stealing the Senate seat for Franken
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Posted on 12/17/2008 6:00:25 PM PST by flintsilver7

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To: flintsilver7

What is clear is that in the end, if the board WANTS to give the race to a candidate, they can do it, based on the bizarre decisions they’ve made so far.


81 posted on 12/17/2008 8:31:29 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The problem still stems from the incredibly suspicious and statistically impossible 500+ vote “corrections” that occurred after the election but before the recount.

This circus just serves to illustrate how corrupt they are.


82 posted on 12/17/2008 8:34:10 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasnÂ’t caught on in the United States.)
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To: DAC21
Ummm...I think you meant to say “nonexistent”. They are long out of power currently.

It will be a long journey in the wilderness - GOP has not shown a spine in the past few decade that I can remember. They surly are all about crossing the aisle than to take this head on. DEMS always play dirty.
83 posted on 12/17/2008 8:34:50 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: gore_sux
Are they taking into consideration who the others voted for?

I would think if they voted primarily republican or demorat then it should be fairly obvious who the vote was for.

But if there is any question then the ballot should not count at all. That would be the only fair and legal thing to do

84 posted on 12/17/2008 8:42:51 PM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: ken21
if the republicans put up with this, then they’re going to be out of power for 30 years.

It doesn't matter much, win or lose (Franken or Coleman, take your pick) the country doesn't have near that long. It's just a matter of how fast to the finish. Coleman wins it takes maybe 4 or 6 years longer. Franken wins and the road is a whole lot shorter, but no less bloody.

85 posted on 12/17/2008 8:56:05 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: flintsilver7

Actually, fools who make a mess of a simple ballot - are clearly too incompetent to vote.

I wouldn’t want such folks making decisions that effect my life or wallet.


86 posted on 12/17/2008 9:37:08 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: P-Marlowe
They will keep counting the votes until Franken wins.

I'll bet you $1,000 that your unfounded, partisan, cliche'd post is incorrect.
87 posted on 12/17/2008 9:46:35 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: flintsilver7
Most of the Franken challenges are totally lame.

this one is my favorite

88 posted on 12/17/2008 9:52:34 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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To: flintsilver7

This is a challenged ballot!!!!

http://senaterecount.startribune.com/media/ballotPDFs/Winona_WinonaW1P4_challengedballot1F.pdf


89 posted on 12/17/2008 10:41:51 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: P-Marlowe

No Republican lawyers around there?The recount should be straightly bipartisan.
Aren’t you fed up with the libtard mess and hijacking of US democracy/freedom?
That’s a shame


90 posted on 12/18/2008 1:25:39 AM PST by Ulysse (.)
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To: omega4179
My 5 year old can fill in an oval better than that. These voters are barely functional idiots.

And my 70-year-old relative with Parkinson's and 40-year-old friend with cerebral palsy can't.

And neither of them is an "idiot" by a long-shot.

But hey, maybe your 5-year-old will be lucky and find a career as a colorist for a black-and-white comic book! ;-)

91 posted on 12/18/2008 1:39:00 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Ouderkirk; ml/nj; Seven plus One; pepperdog; stylin19a; LanaTurnerOverdrive
Ouderkirk>Both of the ballots you have shown belong in the trash....neither one of the voters followed the instructions.

ml/nj>I'd throw both of these ballots out.

Seven plus One>Unless they’re absentees, then they’re trash. period.

pepperdog>Ballots such as these should be thrown out without any further consideration.

stylin19a>yikes...both those ballots s/b tossed.

So it's okay to break the law because the voter failed to follow instructions?!? Would someone who advocates that view please explain in a little more detail when it's okay to just flat-out ignore the law and make a decision based on personal whim?

92 posted on 12/18/2008 2:00:17 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: papasmurf
Let's wait and see what the final count is before we set ourselves on fire, ok?

I'm starting to wonder if many Democrats are too clumsy to color within the lines and many FReepers are too dense to see the difference between an X standing alone and an X through an oval. (Or determine ballot decisions based on Minnesota law rather than their own opinion of what the law should be.)

Heck, if conservatives are going to act like libs, why should there be any cheering or praying for Coleman over Franken?!

93 posted on 12/18/2008 2:05:18 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: gondramB; flintsilver7; Enchante; kaboom
They are fundamentally different in nature. The challenge on the first would be an erasure issue; on the other, it's that two different marks were used.

I think that voter intent on the second one is that the X is to mark "no," except that the law (M.S. 204C.22) specifically defines a mark as "X" but allows alternate ones. (Disclaimer: IANAL)

94 posted on 12/18/2008 2:06:13 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Heck, if conservatives are going to act like libs, why should there be any cheering or praying for Coleman over Franken?!

I'm hoping that peer pressure will at least put some brake on a RHINO. With Franken, there's NO hope.

95 posted on 12/18/2008 3:43:00 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: flintsilver7
Al Franken: The Lying Liar
96 posted on 12/18/2008 4:38:00 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Abortion has become little more than the New Left's execution of political prisoners.)
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To: Arkinsaw
Another vote was spoiled on that ballot, too, just to the right of the senate vote.

Soros helped elect dems to office in several states canvassing boards and Sec State positions before this election. He has taken over this country. God help us.

97 posted on 12/18/2008 4:41:32 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Join us on the best FR thread, 8000+ posts: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts)
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To: Gondring

Sorry to spoil your Minnesota apologist streak here, but why exactly are you making excuses for these people? People with Parkinson’s or cerebral palsy would, in many cases, be smart enough to either ask for help initially (which is legally required everywhere) or ask for another ballot if they’ve ruined one.

If you can’t read directions, can’t fill in an oval, and can’t ask for help or another ballot if you’ve vomited ink all over the ballot, then I’m more inclined to believe you’re an idiot.


98 posted on 12/18/2008 4:56:11 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasnÂ’t caught on in the United States.)
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To: gore_sux
These "X's" are B.S.

In Minnesota, the voter inserts his or her ballot in the scanner after marking it. Such an overvote would be flagged, and the voter given a new ballot. If they received a new ballot, the old one would be discarded.

Either these are undiscarded duplicate ballots, or the voter voluntarily chose not to complete a new ballot, and forfeited their vote in this particular race.

Either way they should be discarded.

It's like the canvasing boards have no knowledge of the local polling rules.

99 posted on 12/18/2008 5:34:12 AM PST by magellan (u)
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To: flintsilver7

Honestly, after working as an election judge this time around, I’m of the opinion that for future elections, we should just throw all improperly marked ballots out.

It’s getting ridiculous how many steps were taken to show how to properly mark up a ballot, and yet these morons continue to waste time and taxpayer money with their incompetence.

Any 10 year old can fill in a bubble.


100 posted on 12/18/2008 5:51:14 AM PST by MNReaganite (Bobby Jindal for President)
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